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  • UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    3 months ago

    and the horror of it causes people to start negotiating again and agree to peace

    The horror of anything doesn’t seem to influence contemporary politics all that much anymore, at least when it comes to warfare and killing. This part of your prediction is the one that is the most iffy for me. Blood-for-blood escalation, like in the very old doomsday scenarios, seems much more likely to me if nuclear weapons are actually used, even once.

    • weeen [any, any]@hexbear.net
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      3 months ago

      If that happens at least we’ll all be dead pretty quick… My main fear is climate change, because it will first affect the people who barely contributed to it and are already suffering, while the people who contributed because of greed will be safe for much longer.

      Capitalism is the root of climate change but the west will probably turn to ecofascism to protect it, I just want the oppressed to see retribution but I don’t have any hope for the near future

    • IHave69XiBucks@lemmygrad.ml
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      3 months ago

      Nuclear weapon use isnt like the horrific things we see today though. Its something that 1. The powerful are also fearful of, and that they wont be spared from, and 2. Something that does extreme damage not just to humans but to economies, and infrastructure. The horrors of today are squarely placed upon the shoulders of the downtrodden to bear the weight of so those in positions of privilege find it easy to ignore them. But have Los Angeles wiped off the map in an instant and that wont be so easy to ignore. Look to 9/11. The death toll wasnt even that high compared to other atrocities that have happened since, but it has a lasting and profound effect on the western worldview and policy because it effected those who should be immune to the woes of war. In their metal towers, with all their wealth, their blood flowed. Thats what they fear. The same way war in Ukraine caused so many to freak out but war in the middle east is seen as expected. Its too close to home. Once the powerful dont feel safe anymore they will agree to peace.

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        3 months ago

        If any particular individual that has direct command over nuclear weapons, that happens to follow Ayn Rand’s delusion of “I will not die, it is the world that will end” and sensed their own death was imminent, would you count on that then?