Copy of the post in the event it is deleted or you don’t want to give ****it any traffic.
Hey again, /r/PICS!
We have another interesting development for you: /u/ModCodeofConduct still hasn’t responded to our request for a public reply… but they have seen fit to threaten us:
This is a final warning for inaccurately labeling your community NSFW which is a violation of the Mod Code of Conduct rule 2. Your subreddit has not historically been considered NSFW nor would they under our current policies.
Please immediately correct the NSFW labeling on your subreddit. Failure to do so will result in action being taken on your moderator team by the end of this week. This means moderators involved in this activity will be removed from this mod team. Moderators may also be subject to additional actions, e.g., losing the ability to join mod teams in the future.
Lastly, if you suddenly begin to post, or approve content that features sexually explicit content to your community in order to justify the NSFW label, we will immediately remove and permanently suspend moderators who have participated in this action.
Needless to say, we responded as you would expect:
Please read and publicly respond to our message addressing this.
We are not in violation of the cited rule as it is written. Moreover, according to Reddit’s listed policies, our subreddit is considered NSFW. If these policies are themselves in error, please correct their verbiage immediately. Otherwise, /r/PICS reverting to SFW would itself be in violation of those same policies.
Our team is currently discussing our actions in the meantime. Please permit us some time to reach a consensus.
Maddeningly, /u/ModCodeofConduct is telling us to go against Reddit’s listed guidelines, which puts us in something of a pickle: If we follow their commands, we’ll be in violation of the site-wide rules… but if adhere to said rules, they’ll remove us. /r/InterestingAsFuck is still unmoderated (at the time of this writing), so we can reasonably assume that our removal would effectively kill this community.
Well, we don’t want /r/PICS to die, so while we figure out how best to handle the situation (which includes waiting for a public, user-visible response from /u/ModCodeofConduct), we’re going to be exploring new ways of ensuring that innocent, unsuspecting users are not presented with offensive content. One possible avenue would see you – yes, you, the upstanding Redditor reading this – having the ability to tag any post that you personally found offensive.
If you have any other ideas, please share them in the comments!
Sorry for the confusion, /r/PICS! We’ll get back to you with more soon!
If they were just trolling the admins, it would be one thing, but they are so committed to not losing control of /r/pics, that they’re putting serious work into it. Cmon…
Ehh, you might as well waste as much of the admins time as possible.
It’s reddit mods. Losing their powetrip for them is like a mother losing her baby.
Agreed.
To piggyback off of your comment, I see a lot of people asking about when their favorite subreddits are going to officially migrate, and a few that have started communities and offered them up to the old Reddit mods.
If anyone doesn’t see a community here they wanted to “migrate” from Reddit then just create the community yourself, but DO NOT just roll over and hand it off to the old Reddit mods. They had their opportunity to see value in the Fedirverse and didn’t take it. Besides, this place is a fresh start, there’s no reason to prop up the old toxic hierarchy just to make it feel more like home.
I think what’s more likely going on than “let’s repeat our mistakes” is that people want the community to exist but don’t want to take on the shitty job of moderating it, especially when Lemmy/Kbin are lacking mature moderation tools right now.
For example, as far as I know the gunpla community hasn’t migrated over, and I’m scared that finding information on the hobby is going to go even more underground than it already is. There’s a ton of useful tips, tricks, and other info that was already limited to people already aware of certain niche builder youtube channels, instagrams, private facebook groups, and personal websites. Reddit helped surface that info but a lot was still very much a “if you know you know” kind of thing.
All that said, there’s no way in hell that I would ever have the time to manage a community like that even if we had all the old third party mod tools and mod assistance bots that reddit used to have. I’m also too new to the hobby to bootstrap a community for it with the basic info and content to start things rolling. Most importantly, I’ve moderated online spaces before, and I have no interest in going back to it.
There’s a lot more going on than people just wanting to reintroduce the toxic aspects of reddit.
Don’t you dare use “to piggyback off of”. We aren’t at work, quit it.