Dear comrades,

As we all know there are two soviet eras pre and post death of Stalin. We all know Khrushchev basically did a coupe detat, by killing all Stalinists and also by starting the anti Stalin propaganda. We know he was the cause of the Soviet Sino split.

But what exactly caused the split? What policies did he push that were reformist or capitalist in nature ? How exactly did he fuck up? I know the results, but I lack in knowledge of the causes.

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    3 months ago

    We have Khruschev’s memoirs and speeches and supplementary theoretical texts lol

    Memoirs alone will not give you the full picture - rather, they will give you someone’s viewpoint, however distorted it might be. One must inevitably compare that to other information.

    Gorbachev, for instance, claimed in his memoirs that “Glasnost unleashed forces they could not control”. That was at the very least very dishonest - he himself went to great lengths and encouraged criticism of the CPSU through the same media he handed over to Yakovlev and other anti-communist forces. What good would it do reading this part of his memoir if you don’t have other sources of information to verify it against?

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      3 months ago

      Okay, but Khruschev’s not Gorby.

      And you already give an example of insight that historical research and reading can provide.

      Thanks for proving my point.

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        3 months ago

        Okay, but Khruschev’s not Gorby.

        The point stands - memoirs alone are not a reliable source, his or Gorby’s. Conceptually

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          3 months ago

          The point doesn’t stand because we don’t know that due to the difference in character.

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            3 months ago

            memoirs alone are not a reliable source

            The point doesn’t stand because we don’t know that due to the difference in character.

            What is it that we don’t know (due to the difference in character)? I am genuinely lost. What does that mean?

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              3 months ago

              You know what that means and, if you say you don’t, then I accuse you of playing coy.

              haha

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                3 months ago

                I don’t, please don’t presume what I know. Please explain yourself, in good faith

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                    3 months ago

                    No. I’m sorry, I’ll just stop here. It would be better to finish this conversation, I don’t like the way it is going.