• redisdead@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Housing cooperatives quickly turn into unmaintained garbage. When everyone owns something, nobody cares for it.

    Own your own living space.

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      Research in Canada found that housing cooperatives had residents rate themselves as having the highest quality of life and housing satisfaction of any housing organization in the city.[8] Other research among older residents from the rural United States found that those living in housing cooperatives felt much safer, independent, satisfied with life, had more friends, had more privacy, were healthier and had things repaired faster.[9] Australian researchers found that cooperative housing built stronger social networks and support, as well as better relationships with neighbours compared to other forms of housing.[10] They cost 14% less for residents and had lower rates of debt and vacancy. Other US research has found that housing cooperatives tended to have higher rates of building quality, building safety, feelings of security among residents, lower crime rates, stable access to housing and significantly lower costs compared to conventional housing.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housing_cooperative#Research_on_housing_cooperatives

      The residents own the building indirectly. That means all of them look out for it. Unlike a commercial rent, the people who own it also live in it, which means they actually care about the quality. The cooperative has an actual structure to organize repairs, upkeep of shared spaces like floors and a way to collect money to pay for those. A private residence especially the later part can be a problem. Not having the money to pay for repairs or upgrades is rather common, especially for the retired.

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        Social studies are worth fuck all. This kind of research is pointless and has barely if any basis in reality.

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          In other words: Hey I just ignore all evidence, which goes against my opinion. I am sure the researches bribed the police to bring down crime statistics and also building inspectors to evaluate the building quality. Also all of them people living in them have to be liars.

          Please spread it. Given how quickly cooperative housing is being run down, I honestly do not have a problem living in something built 150years ago, being turned into ruins like this one in Amsterdam(btw it is easy to find similar old ones in other countries):

          House built in 1876 in Amsterdam by a coop, still in use looking good )

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            4 months ago

            For each pretty picture you nitpick, there’s dozens that look like post soviet piles of rubble and garbage barely held together by thinned down plaster and lead paint.

            Social ‘studies’ ignore all kind of evidence as well.

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      Not all decommodified / cooperatively owned housing needs to be the sort of social housing that tend to come to mind when thinking of a “housing co-op.”

      Check out the work that the Beverly Vermont Community Land Trust is doing in Los Angeles: https://laecovillage.org/community-land-trust/. The “eco village” operates in this more crunchy, housing co-op sort of way, but then there are also lots of tenants and home-owners alike who live on the land owned by the land trust, without owning their homes in the standard sense.