If you want a proper Black review of this beef, you need to go to a proper Black essayist. Todd.

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      I have this like-- idle day dream of LowTierGod having come across FD in the queues and absolutely going ballistic after Unc folds his ass like a lawn chair

      I can imagine LTG’s exact meltdown

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    Only partway through this, but it’s fantastic. And you’re right, it’s way better than Todd’s review, as much as I like him.

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      Yeah I don’t want it to sound like I’m suddenly splitting on Todd or have gained years worth of hate from two videos, but… Todd’s videos on this subject’s some of his few duds imo. I can’t get behind them, I can’t even recommend them, and I pray he doesn’t make a habit of Ross-ery.

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          It’s the surface level analysis for me. Damned near every take Todd had, with exception of how actually kinda fucked it is that both battlers invoked women in their salvos, felt like the exact kind of low-frequency content-ized white analysis that I’d expect from an Adam22 or a VladTV. He displays no real appreciation (at least, not from what I saw) for rap as an art form, doesn’t seem to understand how deep these traditions go for us (or how absolutely aberrant to those traditions that not only Aubrey, but most of the kayfabe rappers on the radio today are to those traditions), but worst of all?

          It offends me on a level deeper than rap that Todd’s takeaway in his latest video on the beef even came anywhere near “(rap) gatekeepers versus the gays”. I’m genuinely sick of seeing Black folk-- especially Black men, considering it’s an election season-- constantly getting lined up as some kind of aggressor toward another (usually just as disadvantaged) group. I’m sick of it being taken as a given that “Black men have an anti-Asian problem”, that “Black men are inherently homophobic”, that “Black men are this, that, and the third”–and all I could think in response to that take, after I spent a good two minutes short circuited from how fractally wrong it was, was “this has NOTHING to do with the gays, though?”

          Like, I could have let surface-level Ross-ery slide, but the minute it hit me that he wanted to take it there, and simultaneously never once address Aubrey’s actually homophobic (“Abel’s music only plays where boys have a little bit more pride”) and transphobic (“Where is yo uncle at? I wanna talk to the man of the house”) bars, I had no patience for the rest of the subject out of him. I don’t like white folk monetizing our culture, our pain, or our bodies after death-- that last one is why you see so many shots at TrapLoreRoss, btw.

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    watched this whole vid yesterday - as someone who was watching this shit unfold all the way back when Control dropped, this was such a good recap of the last like decade plus of this whole thing. watched all of it in one sitting, absolutely vital viewing

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      i think if you’ve followed kendrick, and especially as touched on in the FD video around The Pop Out - he is saying that, like he did a whole concert where at the end he brought on folks regardless of affiliation, stopped the whole show and talked about how it’s deeper than hiphop, and it’s about uniting and building community and that that’s the way he can see forward. I really think that’s the headspace he’s in now, where he’s realised his strength is him being of the people and you see it in the Not Like Us video too

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      And who are you to comment on a Black man working through his bullshit again and addressing HIS CULTURE? Don’t do this. Don’t get into this shit like you weren’t acting a fuckin fool with me yesterday. You know your opinions on Black matters aren’t wanted where I’m concerned.

      Like, if I didn’t know how prone to tryna talk over Black folk that you’ve presented yourself to be, I’d snidely ask if you think you have all the answers but clearly, you do; and I’m not tryna do that shit with you tonight. Don’t fuck up the wave, take your bullshit elsewhere.

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          Of course, what I said was outdated and it looks like he’s probably doing fine, so I guess it’s moot.

          That’s the fucking problem! You run your mouth knowing fuckall about the cultures you critique! STAY IN YOUR GODDAMN LANE!

          Christ on a goddamn stick, if there’s one thing I hate more than a cracker it’s a cracker that doesn’t know when to shut their paternalistic, I-know-what’s-best-assed hole-- you are literally more insufferable to me than the last peckerwood that couldn’t control his wind on wholly Black matters. 420blazeit or whatever the fuck his name was.