cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17792695

After slowly phasing the app out in some regions, Samsung has announced that it will no longer pre-install Samsung Messages…

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    3 个月前

    No one is doing that. You must have this thread confused with another one.

    All those stubborn Americans do that, whether they spell it out all the time out not.

    While I agree that Signal is an excellent choice, almost no one uses it

    Not with the attitude to refuse to install 3rd party messengers in the first place.

    It’s been pointed out in several threads that WhatsApp is basically a societal expectation in Europe so I assume that’s what your referring to.

    In different regions around the world, different messengers are the norm (for example Line in Japan). Only Americans are zealous defenders of archaic SMS.

    Telegram is the only option that’s even worse than Meta.

    Lolno.

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      3 个月前

      whether they spell it out all the time out not.

      Okay so you admit you were just fabricating this argument?

      Not with the attitude to refuse to install 3rd party messengers in the first place.

      It doesn’t matter what your attitude is.

      In different regions around the world, different messengers are the norm (for example Line in Japan)

      Do you live in Japan?

      Only Americans are zealous defenders of archaic SMS.

      Once again, you’re fabricating arguments. No one is defending SMS. But it’s the only method that gets the job done 100% of the time, regardless of what apps are installed on your phone.

      Lolno.

      Bruh it doesn’t even have E2EE…

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        3 个月前

        Okay so you admit you were just fabricating this argument?

        No, because it’s a real argument.

        Do you live in Japan?

        Completely irrelevant where I live. I made a random example from around the world that shows how non-US societies don’t cling to SMS.

        No one is defending SMS. But it’s the only method that gets the job done 100% of the time, regardless of what apps are installed on your phone.

        That’s how defending SMS looks like. SMS, the true work horse. 🙄

        Bruh it doesn’t even have E2EE…

        Neither has SMS which you and your American friends defend so hard.

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          3 个月前

          because it’s a real argument.

          It is a real argument no one here was having

          Completely irrelevant where I live

          It’s not, when we’re discussing what platform you’re referring to. Given that you’re refusing to disclose that platform as well as the country you live in, I’ll take that as confirmation that my assumption was correct.

          Neither has SMS which you and your American friends defend so hard.

          You’re moving the goalposts. We were discussing Telegram vs. WA.

          I don’t know why you keep trying to push this Strawman. Is WhatsApp better than SMS? Sure, if the person you’re trying to communicate with is actually using it… If they’re not, it doesn’t matter which one is better in theory because only one of them is actually going to accomplish the goal you’re looking for. Most of us don’t care to have a conversation with everyone we contact about what chat apps each other are using or prefer, we just want to communicate, and SMS achieves that goal without a pfaff. You don’t have this conversation because you assume everyone is using WA, and like I mentioned in my original reply, the fact that you all use Meta for communication is not a flex.

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            3 个月前

            You’re moving the goalposts. We were discussing Telegram vs. WA.

            Actually, I just replied to Eheran’s comment do didn’t know either Google Messages nor Samsung Messages. It’s you people who feel the urge to discuss my short reply further and further which I entertained because I was a bit bored anyway. I actually only mentioned Signal and Telegram (and later Line) by name but stayed on topic of SMS/RCS all the time. You making up discussions and moving goalposts yourself is on you.

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              3 个月前

              Actually, I just replied to Eheran’s comment do didn’t know either Google Messages nor Samsung Messages.

              Actually, none of that has anything to do with what we were discussing? Just as a reminder, since you seem to be lost:

              Me: “Telegram is the only option that’s even worse than Meta”

              You: “Lolno.”

              Me: “it doesn’t even have E2EE”

              You: “Neither has SMS”

              This is called a “whataboutism” because no one was discussing SMS in that particular context. Try to keep up.