Quite an old joke.
I do miss my old Blackberry 9900

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    I miss having a viable “3rd” option.

    The rise of the iPhone and Android was a wild time back in the early 2010s.

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      It’s still shocking that Microsoft just couldn’t come up with a decent third option at all. Goes to show that Windows only exists out of pure inertia at this point, and Microsoft is now incapable of building successful consumer products that people love using.

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        They did, about three times, each time abandoning it before the ecosystem could stabilize.

        Admittedly, the last time nobody even wanted to buy in because everyone expected them to drop the OS within two years. Which they promptly did.

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          They never build something with the attitude “Let’s make the best thing for the consumer!”

          It’s always “Let’s make the best thing for the consumer… Buuuut we also need to integrate this fuckery here!”

          It’s no way to break into a market where you are far behind. You need to put consumer needs first. Period.

          The last Microsoft product that actually is good is VS Code. It was build with the end user in mind and quickly took up steam.

          In today’s climate with so much competition, you can’t half ass things, just because “you’re a big player”. Microsoft refuses to accept this reality.

          Windows 11 is the next step in the process of them fucking up big again.

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        I had a windows phone. It was really good, it had all the functionality apps, it could run emulators, but it didn’t have the user base. Good compatibility with windows 8/8.1. But people hated those OSs. Microsoft was too late to pick up blackberry’s failing market and too early to capitalize on windows 10s popularity.

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          IMO MS for consumers and MS for developers are two totally different beasts. Typescript is also a beloved tech.

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          Vscode is essential just because of what they call “intellisense”. You download the package for the programming language you want and then it shows you lists of variables and members in classes, shows you tool tips with relevant comments and some autocomplete suggestions. This is so invaluable and saves so much time. I can’t just remember the entire codebase and every function, variable and overload of it myself. Switching tabs and windows all the time every time I forgot the overloads for that one function is an impossible waste of time when I’m doing anything complicated.

          I know there are actually FOSS ways to do this now finally but I’ve never successfully set it up. Hopefully that stuff will be working well, easier to use and more refined by the time Microsoft pulls the plug in Vscode for Linux.

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            … FOSS ways to do this now finally

            Ahem. Eclipse would like a word.

            Was doing Java, C, PHP, and Python on it close to 20 years ago. With language API support & documentation implemented by plugins.

            That said, I do tip my hat to MS for developing LSP for vscode - and eventually making it an open standard.

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            There have always been other solutions though. Someone here mentioned eclipse as a FOSS solution, but there are others. Even vim and kate have pretty good language comprehension thanks to working with language servers. Likewise products like JetBrains while they can be expensive are very good pieces of software. I actually don’t even use VSCode that often anymore thanks to Kate and the JetBrains suite. VSCode itself is open source and you can use one of the pure open source builds, or any of the other programmers text editors that exist.

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        I would totally consider a Windows phone if they could actually pull it off.

        I only run one hands free Linux system now, but a Linux phone would also be cool. It would have to be compatible with Google Play apps though as I need certain things for work.

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          Linux phones can already run Android apps and Google Play using WayDroid. You’re going to have a problem if anything you use requires it to pass an integrety check, though, like some banking apps have.

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        I love my Windows Phone! So much so that I literally still have it in a drawer full of out-of-date tech - it works fine but is no longer compatible with my cell service provider :-/

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        You will soon need to watch a 30 second commercial to change your screen dimming.

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        The thing that made Microsoft the de facto computing platform for several generations was the sheer laziness of IBM. Basically nothing about the model 5150 PC was proprietary to IBM; it used lots of off the shelf components, and they even arranged a non-exclusive license for DOS from Microsoft. The only thing IBM actually owned any intellectual rights to was the BIOS, and the minute Compaq made a compatible but non-infringing BIOS it suddenly became not IBM’s platform, it was Microsoft’s platform. No other system at the time did that especially in the reach of small businesses and ordinary citizens; the closest was CP/M which still required machine specific versions of the OS, software, even data disk formats weren’t interchangeable.

        That led to mass adoption, then “This new Windows computer can still run your DOS software” followed shortly by “AOL Keyword TRENDY” and look where it got us.

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      Private life no way but for my job where everything is microsoft. I would kill for a onedrive centered windows Phone with copilot ocr.

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          Not smooth enough on my work device.

          Microsoft has a way of ignoring our software policies and suddenly allowing functionality which is otherwise blockef off.

          I assume this is giving some of my IT coworkers a huge migrain but it not being my responsibility means i mostly reap benefits.

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      A third Option would be bad. Many apps can’t manage to build a good App for two platforms, imagine having to support 3. Also Android is so flexible you can build it into pretty much anything.

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        With a little luck, things like Graphene could be that 3rd option, sort of.

        The big problem is Android doesn’t require a standard BIOS like PCs ended up with. So hardware drivers have to be developed/released by the hardware vendor (which they generally don’t publish them).

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      My last pre touchscreen phone ran Nokia’s Symbian OS, I kinda wish they would have updated it and stayed competitive, but they transitioned over to Windows and picked the wrong pony…

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      I haven’t been able to confirm it myself but I’ve heard that postmarketOS doesn’t suck as hard as it used to anymore

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    i hate that smooth-rectangle has become the standard

    stop it with the extra cameras and the beveled edges, i’d give up half my screen space for some real goddamn buttons

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        I really liked the second-hand blackberry I had in the mid 00’s. I hope that design with physical buttons and the trackball makes a comeback someday. Though I think people are too accustomed to touch screens to be able to move back to smaller devices at this point.

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          Ngl, I wonder how I was able to type on my Samsung Galaxy Y.
          The device is so small and I wonder how much of it were child-sized hands.

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    Obama was forced to use a Blackberry while president and he hated it.

    “I get the thing, and they’re all like, ‘Well, Mr. President, for security reasons … it doesn’t take pictures, you can’t text, the phone doesn’t work, … you can’t play your music on it,’” Obama said during an appearance on The Tonight Show this week. “Basically, it’s like, does your three-year-old have one of those play phones?”

    https://www.theverge.com/2016/6/11/11910306/obama-upgrades-from-blackberry

    Edit: Ugh, I hate the way The Verge totally failed at punctuation.

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      That quote is about the replacement phone, not the Blackberry

      isn’t thrilled with this new phone either

      Any secure phone will have the same restrictions - the manufacturer doesn’t make much difference in this case

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      The quote is about Obama being forced to give up his beloved BlackBerry and move to a secure phone.

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    I am (was) a mobile developer and my favorite app that I ever wrote was a TV guide for a (very) large ISP/cable company. Unfortunately, it was for Blackberry in 2010 just as they were in their death throes. The most common response from people who tried it was “how is this even possible on a Blackberry?” Blackberrys were actually extremely powerful devices, but it was an abysmal platform for developers; sometimes just testing out a one-line code change took 45 minutes, or maybe wasn’t even possible at all and I had to go home (come to think of it, maybe that made it a great platform for developers).

    An under-appreciated negative about them was that the most common devices had 16-bit color (RGB565 which used 5 bits each for red and blue and 6 bits for green - I have no idea what made green so special) which made everything look washed-out and pukey. That scroll wheel was fantastic, though. Really allowed you to do precision control despite the tiny screen, something that just isn’t possible on today’s touchscreen devices with fat fingers.

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    Now Iphone girl has absorbed a bit of BlackBerry’s elitism, both in self-image and perception of Android. You’d need to add a green text bubble, too.

    Everyone else sees BlackBerry guy as a dinosaur, and are about as amazed to meet him IRL.

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    Blackberries are expensive AF, but delicious, and not sure why they are in this image about phones… (/s 😜)

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      They are delicious and free, in the Netherlands they often grow in the “wild” just bring your basket and look out for a ranger(handhaving) as it is not legal. Al lot of people do it.

      As you can often can’t pick them in the middle there is still enough for birds and insect’s.

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    Had a dude try to BOD some old ass BlackBerry not even signed into a blackberry account. Can’t do shit without those activation servers my guy sorry. Was cool to putz around on tho.

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    BlackBerry Storm, biggest letdown of a phone. Full touch screen but with a click mechanism for haptic feedback. Sounded great, didn’t work all that well.

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      No kidding, I was so excited for the Storm. A Blackberry was the phone to have in the latter half of my high school years, so I was absolutely thrilled that RIM found an answer to Android and the iPhone. And then I tried the thing and couldn’t be more disappointed. The clickable touchpad definitely has a top ten spot for worst gimmick ever.