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    4 months ago

    Last I heard, Ukrainians weren’t holding up in those hospitals and using them as launch sites for their bombs…

    Once you turn a hospital into a launch site, it’s no longer afforded the same protection. Might be wise to avoid doing that in the grand scheme of things.

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      4 months ago

      An overwhelming majority of news outlets, as well as humanitarian orgs like Amnesty International, and even the WHO, have come out and said they have seen no evidence that al-Shifa hospital was used for any military operations by Hamas. Even the IDF itself has barely tried to justify it. Israel bombed this hospital, killed civilians including newborns children, and so far have provided no reason to believe that it was even strategically beneficial for anything other than the continued mass deaths of innocent Palestinians.

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      Last I heard, Ukrainians weren’t holding up in those hospitals and using them as launch sites for their bombs…

      RT says they were and the only people who might dispute it are terrorists (also according to Russia).

      Besides, who am I supposed to believe? An IDF endorsed stenographer or my Hamas-affiliated eyes?

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        4 months ago

        When you’re unwilling to believe your own eyes with the videos and pictures that have been shared that are clearly GPS and time stamped showing what was found and where then there’s nothing that’s going to convince you of reality over your embedded ignorance.

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          A lot of this boils down to who you trust for your news. Very easy to get a wide spectrum of videos as “proof” of an equivalent spectrum of beliefs and views.

          Very easy to find war crimes in the middle of a war, and a little selective editing can go a long way towards defining “good guys” versus “bad guys”.

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            4 months ago

            Yeah that’s fair. I try to make a point to get my news from both sides of the story I subscribed to Al Jazeera knowing they’re a clear propaganda machine. Regardless of where I’m getting the information from, I’m performing my own contextual analysis based on what I’m reading and seeing, and it’s really hard to deny the photographic and video evidence that’s published and widely available on this topic.

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        4 months ago

        It’s wild that some people refuse to believe the pictures and videos of their own eyes. It’s undeniable but it weapons caches have been found in various hospitals including al-shifa. It’s undeniable that power feeding the underground tunnels was coming from a un facility.

        You can deny reality all you want, but that doesn’t negate the facts.

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          The weapons found at al-shifa were small arms permissible under the Geneva convention, as often they are difficult to dispose of them at a moment’s notice when treating people who were injured while carrying a firearm. There were not extensive weapons caches at the hospital, nor is there any evidence that the arms that were there were being used for any Hamas operations.