• anji@lemmy.anji.nl
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    Great news. I think we’re still not quite there yet with cultivated meat, but it has great promise. Cultivated meat has the potential to be cheaper, far more environmentally friendly, obviously more ethical, and maybe even healthier. I hope it reaches full scale production with all these benefits in my lifetime.

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    1 year ago

    This is awesome! I had no idea lab grown meat was so close to being viable. I currently eat meat (with some guilt), and I can’t wait to get to the point where I can eat more ethically

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    1 year ago

    I get this is positive, but it saddens me to hear people comment now I can start eating more ethically. There have always been vegan options available. They have been there this whole time, this is merely another option out there, the majority of people will still prefer the “real thing”.

    The only victim the in the situation is the Animals, their gauntlet of suffering from our hands must come to an end.

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      1 year ago

      For someone like me, there honestly aren’t many options. I’m allergic to soy, which eliminates a LOT of vegan meat alternatives. I do mostly eat the options I can have rather than eating meat, but a lot of these options are relatively new and have most certainly not “been there this whole time”.

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        1 year ago

        Rice, Beans, Fruits, Vegetables, Seeds, Grains, Nuts, Berries. Eat a variety of those and no animals need to die. There are plenty of vegans with Soy allergies. https://www.livekindly.com/9-vegan-proteins-to-eat-when-youre-allergic-to-soy/

        I hope that is helpful, and my sentiment is not to gaslight anybody with dietary restrictions. There is a TON of money being spent to ensure people stay uneducated on what foods are actually healthy to eat.

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          Honestly a diet of just those foods sounds miserable - I’m also allergic to nuts so that’s not an option either. Kudos to the people that decide to limit their diet so much to go vegan, but no one is obligated to do so. People are allowed to be excited that there is going to be a more ethical version of food they enjoy

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    1 year ago

    I am very curious what price they can get this to. If traditional chicken breast is $11 a pound and this is $20, it’s going to be rough. If it’s around the same or cheaper, it could do very well!

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    Looks like only available in one restaurant for now, but it’s a start.

    “For one thing, cultivated meat is not vegan or vegetarian.” -> I know some vegans who would disagree with that, on the grounds that no animal cruelty or slaughter is involved. I suspect there will be a fair bit of debate on this as cultivated meat becomes more widespread. I would guess just like we’ve already got “I’m a vegetarian who eats fish” we’ll end up with “I’m a vegan who does/doesn’t eat cultivated meat.”

    You might want to cross-post this to https://beehaw.org/c/food too.

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      I know some vegans who would disagree with that

      I definitely would!

      Usually, the reason people go vegan is to try to reduce (hopefully eliminate) animal suffering, and/or to reduce green house gas emissions from animal farming.

      Cultivated meat deals with the first, and, depending on how it’s produced, can probably entirely avoid the second as well.

      I don’t know the process in detail, but I would also imagine that cultivated meat is no more sourced from animals than a plant that was fertilized with animal dung, and that would still be considered vegan.

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        They biopsy live animals to get the cells to grow meat, so I am sure many vegans will object – but the labs theoretically never need to get more cells. The question becomes whether they do or not and how the source livestock is treated. Do they just sell the source animals to a slaughterhouse? Or do they donate them to a petting zoo? They are unlikely to tell the public.

        I noticed the post’s link is PR from the Upside company website. GOOD Meat is another provider. Here is an NPR link with a bit less sensationalism: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/06/21/1183484892/no-kill-meat-grown-from-animal-cells-is-now-approved-for-sale-in-the-u-s

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          I know they biopsy animals to get the cells, but I just assume it’s a one and done thing since there’s no need to go back; or at least just once for each company working on it. If it’s more than that, it would completely defeat the purpose and probably not be worth it for them.

          Not perfect, but assuming they only do it the one time with an animal that was already likely to be slaughtered, I think I’d still consider it vegan.

          Either way, I’ll probably still stick more plant based. Even if lab meat is better for the environment than farm meat, it still needs to be “fed” and so will probably always take more resources than plant based to be produced.