Why the hell is everyone turning on him because of a poor fucking debate performance? The man is old and stutters. So what? He’s just one fucking guy. If you vote for him you’re voting for his entire administration and his policies. Not just him. He could be a vegetable in the oval office and I wouldn’t care as long as the rest of his administration remained democratic and progressive. (well at least as progressive as anyone could hope for at this point)
Trying to sabotage his campaign because he’s old just makes it more likely for Trump to win.
You guys will go out fingers in your ears refusing to listen to anyone else sure that you’d rather feel right than actually accept that things needed to change.
Then watch them lean on it after the fact for days on end, such as the post you are replying to. It’s almost…almost… like they’re reposting this shit with malicious intent, isn’t it?
Also as if the skills needed to keep me entertained in a high school debate format of “reality television” are the same skills needed to govern.
Also as if we are only away from one charismatic godking messiah figure with a magic political wand to fix everything overnight.
Also as if it is only one person who is elected and appointed to run everything, and not an entire executive system with thousands of appointed employees.
Also as if republicans don’t break everything in sight when they are in power, then sabotage every Democrat effort to fix things.
“Divide and conquer by leaning into people’s medieval peasant sensibilities” is their goddamned motto. Assume people are stupid, then keep them that way by jamming every goddamned corner of the internet with toxic negative propaganda.
Then watch them lean on it after the fact for days on end, such as the post you are replying to. It’s almost… almost… like they’re reposting this shit with malicious intent, isn’t it?
OP here. I voted for Obama (primary and two generals), Sanders->Clinton, Warren->Biden, even busted my ass to elect my man Dougie Jones to the Senate (who should have been the pick for AG over Merrick Garland). And the debate made it immediately obvious that Biden has become a shadow of himself, and does not have what it takes to beat Trump – no media/Russia/Qanon incepting necessary. Despite consistently leading in 2020, he ended up barely winning by a few tens of thousands of votes across a handful of states – this time he’s consistently trailed (both nationally and in the swing states), the biggest news stories have not moved the needle, and the awful debate, follow-on reporting, and feeble response dug him an even deeper hole exactly when he most needed to turn perceptions around on the biggest remaining stage.
Biden was near the bottom of my list in 2020 (again, I preferred Warren), but I’ve grown to like him a lot – he really exceeded my expectations and accomplished sweeping victories with tiny congressional margins. But he’s not the guy to beat Trump this time, and it’s essential he step down in favor of a new Harris/??? ticket (hopefully Beshear) that has at least a fighting chance to prevail in November.
It wasn’t just the delivery, though – it was the meandering logic, the failure to make key points against Trump, and the pathetic response to the party-wide freakout.
Why the hell is everyone turning on him because of a poor fucking debate performance? The man is old and stutters. So what? He’s just one fucking guy. If you vote for him you’re voting for his entire administration and his policies. Not just him. He could be a vegetable in the oval office and I wouldn’t care as long as the rest of his administration remained democratic and progressive. (well at least as progressive as anyone could hope for at this point)
Trying to sabotage his campaign because he’s old just makes it more likely for Trump to win.
Are these actual citizens or are they bots or people from other countries posting shit as propaganda?
The latter. We’ve been seeing them for months.
https://old.lemmy.world/comment/11034581
You guys will go out fingers in your ears refusing to listen to anyone else sure that you’d rather feel right than actually accept that things needed to change.
Then watch them lean on it after the fact for days on end, such as the post you are replying to. It’s almost… almost… like they’re reposting this shit with malicious intent, isn’t it?
Also as if the skills needed to keep me entertained in a high school debate format of “reality television” are the same skills needed to govern.
Also as if we are only away from one charismatic godking messiah figure with a magic political wand to fix everything overnight.
Also as if it is only one person who is elected and appointed to run everything, and not an entire executive system with thousands of appointed employees.
Also as if republicans don’t break everything in sight when they are in power, then sabotage every Democrat effort to fix things.
“Divide and conquer by leaning into people’s medieval peasant sensibilities” is their goddamned motto. Assume people are stupid, then keep them that way by jamming every goddamned corner of the internet with toxic negative propaganda.
OP here. I voted for Obama (primary and two generals), Sanders->Clinton, Warren->Biden, even busted my ass to elect my man Dougie Jones to the Senate (who should have been the pick for AG over Merrick Garland). And the debate made it immediately obvious that Biden has become a shadow of himself, and does not have what it takes to beat Trump – no media/Russia/Qanon incepting necessary. Despite consistently leading in 2020, he ended up barely winning by a few tens of thousands of votes across a handful of states – this time he’s consistently trailed (both nationally and in the swing states), the biggest news stories have not moved the needle, and the awful debate, follow-on reporting, and feeble response dug him an even deeper hole exactly when he most needed to turn perceptions around on the biggest remaining stage.
Biden was near the bottom of my list in 2020 (again, I preferred Warren), but I’ve grown to like him a lot – he really exceeded my expectations and accomplished sweeping victories with tiny congressional margins. But he’s not the guy to beat Trump this time, and it’s essential he step down in favor of a new Harris/??? ticket (hopefully Beshear) that has at least a fighting chance to prevail in November.
They’re tuning on him because the fascists and Russians are telling them to and they don’t have the brains to remember how Humphrey lost to Nixon .
Yep, I’m still voting for him. I’ve had my own troubles speaking in public on occasion. Poor time for it to happen, don’t care.
It wasn’t just the delivery, though – it was the meandering logic, the failure to make key points against Trump, and the pathetic response to the party-wide freakout.
Not worried about it. I don’t get people’s lack of understanding on this: a presidency is an administration composed of multiple people.
The hell you think the cabinet does, hold china?