• ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works
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    4 days ago

    I wonder if there’s actually some truth to his claim. The experience of blacks with the justice system is quite different than that of whites, so I wouldn’t be surprised if their attitude towards a candidate with felony convictions would also be different. Perhaps they’re more likely to believe the narrative of an unfair prosecution than white people are.

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      4 days ago

      I seriously doubt that communities marginalized by the justice system would ever take claims of unfair prosecution seriously from possibly the most privileged white guy ever…

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      3 days ago

      Are you saying you dislike felons, so black people must think highly of them? Like, did this actually make sense in your head when you typed it out?!?

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        No, I’m saying that we know black people are less likely to trust the police than white people are, and so it seems reasonable that they might also trust the courts less too. That doesn’t imply some supervillain-like love of crime.

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          I’m white and I don’t trust the police or the courts at all. That doesn’t mean I sympathize with Trump. I don’t know why that would be any different if I was black, I can see how police would treat me if I were black and I have the ability for empathy.

          So I’m guessing most black people don’t sympathize with Trump. And some of them probably are wondering why he doesn’t sympathize with the Central Park Five after he claims that the justice system is so unfair. I sure am.

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            I should clarify. I’m not saying that most people who distrust the justice system are going to like Trump more after his conviction. I’m also not saying that I think he’s likely to reform the justice system in a way that helps people affected by racial bias.

            However, many of Trump’s supporters consider his conviction evidence that he’s genuinely an anti-establishment candidate rather than proof of wrong-doing. (See the variety of “I’m voting for the convicted felon” merchandise.) This attitude requires a distrust of the justice system. We’ve already seen that Trump’s conviction hasn’t hurt his poll numbers very much and that he currently has more black support than he did in '16 or '20 so I’m saying that his conviction might actually lead to a small increase in support for him from black people (the majority of whom are still never going to support him) because more of them distrust the justice system.

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              His supporters supporting him is not news and I seriously doubt any black person supports him because of his conviction unless there is something seriously wrong with them. Because, again, he supports the conviction of innocent black people. And he still won’t say that they were innocent.

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          That’s a rather far cry from any kind of approval for the orange idiot. Not trusting the courts in no way implies any kind of approval for a convicted felon. Any apparent connection is superficial, at best, if not a completely false equivalency.

          No. There is absolutely nothing to his ridiculous claims. That said, saying stupid crap like this may, in fact, reduce his support, since most people don’t really like having their opinions generalized like that. So hopefully, he keeps shooting himself in his tiny little feet (something about guys with small hands/feet would fit)…