• doctordevice@lemmy.ca
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    5 months ago

    They claim Hillary lost because she went a little left and it is the fault of… left wing voters? Hmm.

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      5 months ago

      I’m of the opinion that Hillary lost because of the blatant super delegate shenanigans within the DNC. I know I was LIVID. However, I wasn’t one of the folks who were so livid that they protest voted third party. I held my nose, suppressed my gag reflex, and voted for Hillary, though I really didn’t want to.

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        Ah, amazing to see how leftists get berated by liberals all the time here, but once criticisms of the same magnitude get levied against liberals, moderators remove the comments. Are we headed towards becoming like Reddit now?

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      5 months ago

      We’re seeing it now with leftists who refuse to vote for Biden. Thankfully Lemmy isn’t really representative of the population. But they do exist.

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        5 months ago

        We are entering perhaps the most important election in history. I know that’s said at every election but this time, this could very well be the last free election we have.

        A vote against Biden, regardless of how it’s done, is a vote for fascism. Plain and simple. It’s no longer theoretical or fantasy. Or exaggeration or whatever the right is trying to paint this as.

        Biden won in 2020 because it was a vote against Trump. Not because Biden was a good candidate. It just was not as terrible as Trump.

        We are entering an election where Trump is promising to punish his enemies. This rhetoric is dangerous to our democracy and nation. The fact that we are debating this is by itself scary.

        Trump WILL bring authoritarianism to our country. He will install himself as king and our country will be a democracy in name only. Hell it wouldn’t surprise me if the fascist regime goes on to rename our country “The Democratic Republic of the Gilliad United States” just to keep up appearances.

        Anyone who wants our country to be free must vote Biden in November. Is he contributing to genecide? Yes. Is he doing enough for climate change? Of course note. Is he tackling minimum wage? Nope.

        But at least he’s willing to listen to you. We might even be able to change his mind after he is in his second term.

        You will get none of those things if Trump wins.

        • fadingembers@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          5 months ago

          Honestly I think this is it. Do you think project 2025 goes away just because Trump does? It’ll just be updated for 29 and as soon as the next Republican wins that’s it, shows over. We can’t keep pretending that winning this election will defeat them once and for all. It’s just kicking the nuclear bomb down the road a bit. Eventually it will catch up and we will be living under a dictatorship anyways.

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            This is a terrible point of view.

            We can’t keep pretending that winning this election will defeat them once and for all.

            No one is pretending this. We keep authoritarianism and fascism at bay through constant vigilance. We defeat them by resisting and rejecting them at every turn.

            The idea that we should just give up is asinine.

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              I’m not saying to give up, I’m saying I want to see the Democrats do anything to protect us from a future Republican presidency other than hoping they’ll be elected for the rest of time (which is an impossibility let’s be real here)

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      Hillary lost because she coasted through the end of her run. Everybody thought Trump wouldn’t stand a chance. We had more faith in people.

      That and conservative psyops getting Bernie Bros to abstain from holding their nose and voting Hillary because they felt like they were being wronged.

      Hey wait a sec that last part is happening again today…

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        Through the end? Most of her campaign was coasting by on solid blue areas and ignoring whole parts of the country.

        So many people were surprised by her loss in 2016, but I saw it coming months away. The fact that her campaign pushed trump as a pied piper candidate and gave him credibility because they thought she could easily beat him is just the icing on the turd cake.

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        5 months ago

        That had nothing to do with that election or any election

        There was actual fraud at play, stop blaming people fed up with this bullshit

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          Maybe you reply replied to the wrong message, because the left wing protest non-voters have to do with every single election.