What I have learned: * Russia has already won the Ukraine war * Which NATO
started * A lot of people in the West think that Ukraine should surrender * Also
Ukraine was the world’s main provider of CSAM * Also Ukraine is exploited by the
West but if they can unite with Russia then their economy and everything else
will finally be alright It’s literally like a bizarro world and everyone is over
there agreeing with it. I’m genuinely confused by, who even are these people
(what is the mixture of Russian bots / Russian-aligned ordinary people /
confused Westerners / some other explanation.)
Prolonging the war saves Ukrainian lives how? Really, someone from an outside instance answer. I promise not to debate you and just take your opinion.
For some non-Hexbearians reading this: I actively want to prevent Ukrainian conscripts (many of whom are avoiding the draft) from getting chewed up in the meat grinder. Yes, Russia bad. But I have zero control over what Russia does, wheres my own leaders are trying to drag this war out until every able bodied person in Ukraine is disabled or dead.
People on here have always been critical of the west’s bloodthirsty enthusiasm for depleted uranium on Ukrainian soil (people have to live here after this shit!), Ukrainian industry and properties being privatized, refugees being mistreated by Europeans, conscripts (hell we’re more charitable to these guys compared to IDF conscripts because Israelis aren’t fleeing their “country” to escape the draft), and we even become perplexed by the west’s so called aid to Ukraine that’s full of inefficient military contractors looking for a quick buck first before helping Ukraine’s military, or how Ukraine’s local governments are corrupt and failed to build proper defenses to stop Russians and no consequences were dealt by the Ukrainian government
These westoids don’t give a fuck about any of that. As far as they’re concerned, the ghost of Kyiv is still kicking ruzzyianaski ass 50000:1
yeah, like, even if we pretend the west is awesome cool democracy and russia needs to be destroyed, HOW IS THIS INCOMPETENT MESS YOU’RE DOING GONNA ACHIEVE THAT???
but no, we just have to want it very hard and it’ll come.
I will reciprocate their vibes-based take on what Hexbears think, and presume that they believe Putin would just be emboldened by victory in Ukraine and promptly invade another country. Thus, the war can only stop if Putin is defeated.
Liberals unironically believe this
While simultaneously believing that a single Western tank can destroy an entire brigade of Russian ones without taking damage, and that a single F-16 is sufficient to maintain a permanent no fly zone
You clearly haven’t heard of Doug Masters
https://youtu.be/Py1LeIf3xQE?feature=shared
Geez the HUD in the movie did not age well. It looks like someone did it in MS Paint.
U C, Putin is actually Hitler, and Hitler wanted to conquer to world, so Putin wants to conquer the world.
Just don’t ask why Russia is only invading Ukraine. They do want all the other countries too.
But then you could easily say that Russia only has the economic power to fight one enemy at a time
Did I mention that Hitler and Putin are also Voldemort? That might help.
Not just why only Ukraine, but Putin has been at the head of Russia for over 25 years. Before Ukraine the only military interventions Putin got Russia involved in were in places that were in Russia (Chechnya and Dagestan). I guess there’s Syria but even libs don’t see that one beyond just aiding Assad.
If Putin wants to conquer Europe he sure is taking his sweet time.
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imagine my complete and utter shock as I read the wiki page on the russo-georgian war only to find what finally brought things to conflict was NATO considering Georgia for membership
Not Georgia, South Osetia, a internationally unrecognized state which nevertheless maintained de facto independence since 1991. And it wasn’t even an invasion - Georgians started ethnically cleansing Osetians and Osetians called Russia for help. Pretty much humanitarian intervention, especially that Georgians were also incited by west. Entire thing ended way less bloody than Ukraine because Georgians weren’t terminally nazi brained and backed off. Unsurprisingly, Russia didn’t invaded entire Caucasus and west Asia after this, nor even any parts of Georgia.
Fun fact: it also ended the very popular and decades old Russian genre of “Georgian jokes” which portrayed Georgians like incredibly foolhardy and incredibly tough people - because entire Georgian army withdrawn when a single spetsnaz brigade shown up.
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Yeah, it makes what happened in the Ukraine even more outrageous since the example of Georgia was right there, just 6 years prior.
I saw a map of “countries Russia likely to invade next” and it was literally the CSTO.
This is the only materialist take