It sounds somewhat like her character from the movie Her to me, but based on the standards set by the entertainment industry it seems reasonable for her to lose the lawsuit. If you can’t hire an actor for a role, you can get a voice actor to do a similar voice. This is done often in animation.
Crispin Glover’s lawsuit against Back to the Future 2 could have set a precedent for image likeness, but he ended up settling, so it seems the industry is just avoiding this problem instead.
I wouldn’t say nothing like her, it’s uncomfortably close especially after being told no. But after the initial uproar, I was shocked how dissimilar it was when I actually heard it.
Maybe you people all have shitty headphones or ears but they sound nothing alike. This is the first time I heard them, and I really thought by all the drama that they were at least comparable. People need to clean their ears.
I grew up playing classical piano and saxophone. Moved into jazz saxophone and then jazz bass, and eventually played with a (terrible) rock band for a couple of years on bass. Technically (although I torture the term here a bit) I was a professional musician.
Not knowing anything else about you, it’s probably a safe bet to put my ear up against yours any day. And while I agree they are clearly different people, if you think they sound nothing alike the bet sounds even safer.
It’s funny that you think your stage damaged ears would be somehow “experienced” or whatever type of point you’re trying to make here. You blasted your ear drums and now have bad hearing. Either way, you fail to make out the distinctions between the voices clear enough to separate them, I don’t, because I have still excellent hearing unfortunately. Claiming you have better ears because you cannot hear the difference is nonsensical.
It’s funny that you think your stage damaged ears would be somehow “experienced” or whatever type of point you’re trying to make here.
I’ve spent my whole life training my ear by listening to and performing music with other people. . .and you can’t see the value of that when it comes to listening to stuff? Impressively ignorant.
In my first post (which you responded to) “I was shocked how dissimilar it was”
in my second post (which you responded to) “I agree they are clearly different people”
You in this post “you fail to make out the distinctions between the voices … you cannot hear the difference”
Man, you’re reading comprehension is even worse than your ear. lol
You also said they’re “uncomfortably close”. But nice cherry picking. Maybe just form less contradictionary opinions and understand what I was replying to, you know, reading comprehension as you said.
And yes, if you’re a stage musician and handling loud as fuck instruments then your ears will be damaged by that. This isn’t even a controversial take but simply the reality of those things and you as an alleged musician should know this.
So, “uncomfortably close” now means I “fail to make out the distinctions”? This doesn’t even make sense on it’s own, but even less so when taken in context.
But nice cherry picking.
You picked only one phrase out of one of my comments, despite two others making it very clear I can tell the difference. And you have the nerve to then claim I’m cherry picking when I pointed to the parts of my statements that prove your accusation wrong? Holy shit, it never ceases to amaze me how blatantly dishonest people will be when they are wrong. lol
It’s okay to be wrong. We all fuck up. The important thing is to just admit it and move on, rather than try to pretend you weren’t wrong by projecting and lying.
But it doesn’t reference the whole movie, does it. It’s meant to invoke a memory of a specific character in the movie, since that’s the business Altman is in.
And we don’t know what kind of deal Johansen struck for that movie. Maybe she does own her likeness in it. We’ll see, I guess.
Not anything literally from the script, but I assume that’s where the concept of a voice controlled AI assistant came from - whoever holds the rights to that in relation to the title “Her”. So if it’s based on a novel or story, clearly the writer of that.
It really isn’t where it came from, they are just the current most popular example of it. We literally had Alexa before the movie came out, as well as An de Armas in the second blade runner and Cortana in the halo video game series as notable examples. AI assistants have always been ubiquitous with sci Fi movies, in most cases they control the ship and aren’t personal though.
I’m aware of that, but we seem to get get distracted from the main point. In the case of OpenAI versus “Her” (i.e. Them launching a similar product, and referencing the film), I think it’s the owners of the Her IP that should have a right to complain. Not an actress that was in it, and whose voice is similar to it. According to the article, there were 2 well-known actresses whose vice matched even better. Should they take action as well?
All of this is under the assumption that they didn’t actual train on her voice - which does seem likely.
Similar voices, clearly different actresses. Imagine refusing a job then feeling entitled to some sort of compensation…
Honestly sounds nothing like Scarlett Johansson to me. OpenAI is shit for many reasons but this seems just another “AI” hysteria wave being pushed.
It sounds somewhat like her character from the movie Her to me, but based on the standards set by the entertainment industry it seems reasonable for her to lose the lawsuit. If you can’t hire an actor for a role, you can get a voice actor to do a similar voice. This is done often in animation.
Crispin Glover’s lawsuit against Back to the Future 2 could have set a precedent for image likeness, but he ended up settling, so it seems the industry is just avoiding this problem instead.
That’s where the sample in the video is from, no?
Yes, I differentiate because I think Scarlett sounds less like her character from that movie in real life.
I was specifically responding to that side by side comparison though.
I wouldn’t say nothing like her, it’s uncomfortably close especially after being told no. But after the initial uproar, I was shocked how dissimilar it was when I actually heard it.
Maybe you people all have shitty headphones or ears but they sound nothing alike. This is the first time I heard them, and I really thought by all the drama that they were at least comparable. People need to clean their ears.
I grew up playing classical piano and saxophone. Moved into jazz saxophone and then jazz bass, and eventually played with a (terrible) rock band for a couple of years on bass. Technically (although I torture the term here a bit) I was a professional musician.
Not knowing anything else about you, it’s probably a safe bet to put my ear up against yours any day. And while I agree they are clearly different people, if you think they sound nothing alike the bet sounds even safer.
It’s funny that you think your stage damaged ears would be somehow “experienced” or whatever type of point you’re trying to make here. You blasted your ear drums and now have bad hearing. Either way, you fail to make out the distinctions between the voices clear enough to separate them, I don’t, because I have still excellent hearing unfortunately. Claiming you have better ears because you cannot hear the difference is nonsensical.
I’ve spent my whole life training my ear by listening to and performing music with other people. . .and you can’t see the value of that when it comes to listening to stuff? Impressively ignorant.
In my first post (which you responded to) “I was shocked how dissimilar it was”
in my second post (which you responded to) “I agree they are clearly different people”
You in this post “you fail to make out the distinctions between the voices … you cannot hear the difference”
Man, you’re reading comprehension is even worse than your ear. lol
You also said they’re “uncomfortably close”. But nice cherry picking. Maybe just form less contradictionary opinions and understand what I was replying to, you know, reading comprehension as you said. And yes, if you’re a stage musician and handling loud as fuck instruments then your ears will be damaged by that. This isn’t even a controversial take but simply the reality of those things and you as an alleged musician should know this.
So, “uncomfortably close” now means I “fail to make out the distinctions”? This doesn’t even make sense on it’s own, but even less so when taken in context.
You picked only one phrase out of one of my comments, despite two others making it very clear I can tell the difference. And you have the nerve to then claim I’m cherry picking when I pointed to the parts of my statements that prove your accusation wrong? Holy shit, it never ceases to amaze me how blatantly dishonest people will be when they are wrong. lol
It’s okay to be wrong. We all fuck up. The important thing is to just admit it and move on, rather than try to pretend you weren’t wrong by projecting and lying.
If the company uses a reference to you to make money, I’d definitely feel entitled to compensation.
This Hollywood idea that famous people are owed perpetual passive income for work they did decades ago needs to die in a fire.
It’s not even a reference to Scarlett, it’s at best a reference to a movie that she has no rights over.
She was offered a job, refused it, and they went with a different actress. She doesn’t own her “likeness”. They owe nothing to her or her ego.
But it doesn’t reference the whole movie, does it. It’s meant to invoke a memory of a specific character in the movie, since that’s the business Altman is in.
And we don’t know what kind of deal Johansen struck for that movie. Maybe she does own her likeness in it. We’ll see, I guess.
It’s not the script writer or the producer that’s complaining though. I think it’s more reasonable for them to want compensation.
Producer, maybe. But what part of the script did they use for marketing of an unrelated product?
Not anything literally from the script, but I assume that’s where the concept of a voice controlled AI assistant came from - whoever holds the rights to that in relation to the title “Her”. So if it’s based on a novel or story, clearly the writer of that.
It really isn’t where it came from, they are just the current most popular example of it. We literally had Alexa before the movie came out, as well as An de Armas in the second blade runner and Cortana in the halo video game series as notable examples. AI assistants have always been ubiquitous with sci Fi movies, in most cases they control the ship and aren’t personal though.
I’m aware of that, but we seem to get get distracted from the main point. In the case of OpenAI versus “Her” (i.e. Them launching a similar product, and referencing the film), I think it’s the owners of the Her IP that should have a right to complain. Not an actress that was in it, and whose voice is similar to it. According to the article, there were 2 well-known actresses whose vice matched even better. Should they take action as well?
All of this is under the assumption that they didn’t actual train on her voice - which does seem likely.
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