• AchillesUltimate@lemy.lol
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    Not everyone in capitalism is a winner, and that’s ok. The big advantage is that the losers are usually offered the opportunity to work and make a living.

    The alternative is crossing your fingers and hoping the government (or whatever body is responsible for distributing pay) gives you what you need. If they don’t, tough luck, there’s nothing you can do about it.

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      1 year ago

      As opposed to under capitalism where you have to cross your fingers and hoping that one of those winners will offer you a job with living wage, while another doesn’t charge you an arm and leg for housing.

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        If none of the winners offer you a job, make your own, or acquire some marketable skill. You have options and opportunities.

        There aren’t as many options for housing as I’d like honestly. I’d prefer less regulation to allow for lower quality, cheaper housing. As it stands though, you still have options and the ability to improve your living conditions.

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          Ableism at it’s best. I bet you‘re gonna ask for compensation if you ever get disabled for some reason.

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          Smart people will do fine either way. I thought you were showing concern for the other people.

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            I think everything I said applies to stupid people as well.

            There’ll always be people who need to rely on charity, but if even a guy in a wheelchair can make a good living and has more opportunities than he can count I’d say that’s a really good sign.

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      There are quite a number of other alternatives. Your reduction of this issue shows that you are not only a capitalist whore but also very ignorant.

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        I wasn’t aware there are ao many other options? Could you reference some?

        I guess you could grow and make everything yourself, buy that doesn’t seem like an economic system.

        I’m actually not sure how pay was distributed in feudalism, so that could theoretically be another way, but I doubt it is.

        Something like UBI would be the latter option.

        Maybe if you had capitalism at a macro level, but communism at a micro level. Each town internally worked like communism, but interacted with others in a capitalist fashion. But even there, there will be people in the town distributing pay (or goods and services directly) without you having control over it. You might be able to be especially charismatic, or threaten a revolt, but I don’t think those are things people can typically do.