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Posadas [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net to the_dunk_tank@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 years ago

Reality is Chinese propaganda

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Reality is Chinese propaganda

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Posadas [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net to the_dunk_tank@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 years ago
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https://nitter.net/RVAwonk/status/1692869899108913506

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  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    Help! China is doing a propaganda against widdle cinnamon roll America by checks notes telling the truth.

    The US Occupation of Hawaii is illegal by the way.

    • emizeko [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      We are not American! We are not American! We are not American! Say it, in your hearts! Say it when you sleep! We are not American. We will die as Hawai’ians, we will never be Americans! The Americans, my people, are our enemies, and you must understand that. They are our enemies. They took our land. They imprisoned our Queen. They banned our language. They forcibly made us a colony of the United States. America always says they are democratic. Lies! That is a lie. They have never been democratic with native people. They have never been democratic with Indians. They have never been democratic with Hawai’ans.

      —Haunani Kay Trask

    • YuccaMan [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      The US doesn’t commit crimes, we pass laws to make them legal post-facto

      • Hatandwatch [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        vote the shame away.

        • Bruja [she/her, love/loves]@hexbear.net
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          To the tune of Peaches.

          • Hatandwatch [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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            I thought you meant this Peaches.

      • freagle@lemmygrad.ml
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        They couldn’t even be bothered to do that with Hawaii. Hawaii is still illegally occupied according to the US’s own laws

        • YuccaMan [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          By god you’re right. A shameful omission on my part, Hawaii is my favorite example of the practicalities of imperialist acquisition.

    • edge [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      israel-cool

  • Snackuleata [any]@hexbear.net
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    But China and Russia don’t care about Hawaii

    Neither does the US

    • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Tbh i find it entirely believable that your average CPC member regards Hawaiian peope more fondly than your average grillman, if even just for a lack of racist propaganda as a child

      • GivingEuropeASpook [they/them, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        Your average CPC member isn’t in charge of PRC foreign policy though

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          The people writing these articles typically aren’t either

    • Grownbravy [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      But nominally if nothing else, the US is responsible for it

    • HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml
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      Hawaii is not a state of the US. It’s a vassal at best.

      • LeZero [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        Hawaii used to be a US colony. Still is, but also used to be

  • zifnab25 [he/him, any]@hexbear.netBanned
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    Did the US neglect Hawaii? Impossible to say.

    All I can say with certainty is that you’re a traitor to the nation and a Russian shill far-right lunatic Chinese bot farmer should you suggest it was.

  • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    right-wing narrative

    That narrative? The government should be helping its citizens. I am a very smart liberal and I definitely don’t just categorize things as bad/right wing and good/liberal.

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      deleted by creator

      • Tachanka [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        government helping people is soviet ideology. the government should keep its corrupt bureaucratic hands out of the free market and its magical ability to innovate solutions (don’t look up what corporate subsidies are)

  • Infamousblt [any]@hexbear.net
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    Oh this is one of my favorite lib narratives. Pointing out when the US does a bad thing is ENEMY PROPAGANDA. See also: pointing out when the ENEMY does a good thing is ENEMY PROPAGANDA.

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      Didn’t this also happen in the UK when long-corbyn got hold of Conservative plans to sell out the NHS to US insurance firms

      IIRC the conversation ended up just being about how the document was leaked by rUsSiAn HaCkErS and discussing its contents would be playing into Putin’s hands or something

      • edge [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        Same with Hillary’s emails. People like to use “but her emails” as some thought terminator as if her emails never actually mattered. They did. For one they showed media cooperation with the Democratic party.

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    You don’t think we care about Hawaii, huh? Then explain how a native of Honolulu got elected president. Next thing you’ll tell me this country has a racism problem, to which I will again point to Obama.

    You know what country never elected Obama? Racist China. The very racist Chinese are trying to take Obama’s homeland because they hate your faded bumper sticker from 2008.

  • jack [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    All Native Hawaiians are tankies

    • Posadas [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netOP
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      US Navy fuel depot poisoning the drinking water?

      Sounds like some soviet tankie propaganda.

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        They live off of feul. Tanks also live off of fuel. Therefore, they are tankies.

        QED

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    You know what would really own the chinese and russians? Not neglecting Hawai’i.
    This is like when Iran complained that LGBTQ-rights were used as a wedge issue by the US to foment revolution.

  • Catradora_Stalinism [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.netBanned
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    This is why I never believe libs when they say they would support a free hawaii, because if a successful independent movement occurs, they’re going to scream “CHINESE CCP PUPPETS” and kill us all.

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    I wish there was an obvious way to prevent this right-wing narrative

    • rsaeshalm
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      Not much money to be made selling weapons to Hawaii though

      • mayo_cider [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        Have we tried bombing it?

        • Vncredleader@hexbear.net
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          We did https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/37604472/the-bombing-of-kahoolawe-went-on-for-decades-clean-up-will-take-generations/

  • ProxyTheAwesome [comrade/them]@hexbear.netBanned
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    How exactly are the Hawaiian fires a “right wing issue”

    I swear to god I find new ways to hate liberals every day

    • GreatWhiteNope [she/her]@hexbear.net
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      Any criticism of America is a right wing issue when the president is a democrat.

      • MCU_H8ER2 [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        This is how they handle issues like Libya. If you bring it up most people will think you are right wing.

    • MCU_H8ER2 [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      Because liberal can’t fathom that anyone is to the left of them.

      • ProxyTheAwesome [comrade/them]@hexbear.netBanned
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        At this point, half the GOP is to the left of them. Utterly pathetic

        • MCU_H8ER2 [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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          NGL they also sound quasi fascist sometimes. Scratch a liberal tho 👀

    • Addfwyn@lemmygrad.ml
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      They think of literally everything in the framework of My Team vs Their Team. If current president is My Team and people are criticizing him for ANYTHING, the only possible explanation is that they are Their Team.

      If they weren’t directly responsible for people’s deaths around the world, the infighting between the two flavours of right-wing would be almost entertaining.

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    Helping people by utilizing the most highly funded military in the world is weakening it. We can’t do good things with those resources. How else will we project our might wherever we want?

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      I remember these liberals used to make the excuse that the US Navy also does humanitarian work, in particular disaster relief. Wonder what happened to that? Guess it’s no coincidence they’ve got 2 hospital ships and 11 nuclear-powered aircraft carriers

      • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]@hexbear.net
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        imagine the good that could be done if all the war criminals on those 11 aircraft carriers died and then cuban doctors took them over

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    China, meet with Ryukyuan and Hawaiian independence activists please mao-shining

    • edge [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Xi Please ask Kim Jong Un to use Juche necromancy on israel-cool

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      I think this might be seen as exporting revolution, and especially in the case of Japan they are really more invested in doing what they can to pry Japan in general a little bit away from the imperial core (good luck).

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        Oh yeah I know

  • CliffordBigRedDog [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Liberals live in an alternate reality to the rest of us

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    Reality can’t really be propaganda because Americans accepted their failing society as reality

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