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Krause [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml to chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 years ago

How some of the post-federation Ukraine threads feel like

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How some of the post-federation Ukraine threads feel like

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Krause [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml to chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 years ago
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    Oh, I’ve been following the whole thing for years and know who she is.

    I just don’t think that her supporting pro-democratic and anti-corruption reform in Ukraine equates to it being okay for Russia to annex part of a neighbouring country.

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      pro-democratic

      democracy is when you pick the new officials yourself on a phone call with Geoffrey Pyatt

    • Sephitard9001 [he/him]@hexbear.netBanned
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      Pro-democracy is when you ban left opposition but not fascists. Anti-corruption is when you have offshore accounts connected to the oligarch who funded said fascists that you used to work for on his TV program

      • TheOtherwise [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        What are you referencing with the last part?

        • Sephitard9001 [he/him]@hexbear.netBanned
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          The Pandora Papers revealed that Zelensky and his inner circle had offshore accounts connected to Kolomoisky. Kolomoisky is an oligarch that owned the TV station Zelensky worked for prior. He also funded nazi militias that couped the government in 2014

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      Democracy is when you replace an elected leader with a pro-western one.

      • jackmarxist [any]@hexbear.net
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        Liberal Democracy is all about giving Americans the right to vote in your countries elections.

    • duderium [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Can you find Ukraine on a blank political map?

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      I just don’t think that her supporting pro-democratic and anti-corruption reform

      Is this a joke? Pro democracy? Anti corruption? When has the US ever stood for that outside of propaganda purposes?

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      democracy is when you elect zelensky on a platform of peace with russia but he lets the Right Sector and Azov continue to try the ethnic cleansing of eastern ukraine

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      supporting pro-democratic and anti-corruption reform in Ukraine

      [laughs in Operation Aerodynamic]

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        Oh wow, really? A cold-war era campaign? You’re really pushing Putin’s talking points here.

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          history started in 2022

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          Lmao I refuse to believe you’ve ever heard or read about Vladmir Putin discussing that

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