That’s it. Our instance requires us to stop responding if you explicitly ask us to. It’s right here buried in our Code of Conduct

Any discussions may be opted out of by disengaging.

In the past, this rule has only applied to the specific user you say it to. I’d like to suggest going forward that if someone on another instance uses it, we treat it as applying to all of us.

Unfortunately this rule wasn’t communicated clearly before, so I’m making this post for visibility.

Edit: As the comments clarify, this has to be done in good faith, typically just a one word “disengage” comment. If you add more stuff to the discussion and then say “disengage” at the end, you’re not disengaging, it’s a way to put a stop to a toxic argument not to get the last word in.

  • GnastyGnuts [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    1 year ago

    You do have to actually disengage though, to be clear. No “I disengage, but also [fuck you, x,y,z, trying to get the last word]”. If you’re disengaging, it has to be mutually respected.

  • YearOfTheCommieDesktop [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    1 year ago

    Yes! Great note for our new federated friends!

    Additionally, the admins have clarified that this is not a free “get the last word” trick either though, so it doesn’t count if you go “hey I want to disengage and also here’s why you’re a doodoo head”

    Frankly, most people on other instances have seemed either content to ignore us (and optionally make inaccurate complaints behind our backs), or just as eager to get into a slapfight as our users, so idk if it will make a huge difference, but this will get us to leave you alone if you are in that scenario, and if it doesn’t can be reported to our mods/admins

  • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netMEnglish
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    1 year ago

    This came up as an alternative to blocking when we lacked a block feature. Since everybody has a block feature now, it probably just makes sense to use that, though there are cases where it is preferable to just tell someone to drop it instead of blocking them. Anyway, it is still the rule.

        • JohnBrownsBussy2 [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
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          1 year ago

          So you see, ape holders can use multiple slurp juices on a single ape. So if you have 1 astro ape and 3 slurp juices you can create 3 new apes. Tonight’s slurp juice mint event is essentially a minting event for both Lab Monkes and Special Forces.

            • JohnBrownsBussy2 [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
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              1 year ago

              Honestly getting tired of explaining, but I’ll give it another shot:

              So, let’s say that you have an ape, and would like to get some more apes. Maybe that astro ape is a Lab Monke, maybe it’s special forces, but it’s an ape, and who doesn’t want more apes. Now, you’d probably say, “I’ll just have to go mint more apes, or maybe buy one off the marketplace.” Now, that might be true for some apes, but for astro apes you can use a slurp juice. It’s a complementary collectible that you can use to mint an ape from an existing ape. Now, the key thing is that you can use multiple slurp juices on the same ape. A lot of people think that you use the slurp juice on an ape and then it’s gone. Now, that would sound scary: “what if I liked my original astro ape? I don’t want to slurp juice it away!” Fortunately, that’s not the case. When you use slurp juice on an ape, it mints a brand new ape. Yes, the slurp juice gets used up, but the original ape will remain in your collection. So, let’s say that for the event you have your astro ape, and then you have 3 slurp juices. That means, by the end of the event, if you use all 3 slurp juices on your ape, you would be have 4 apes at the end of the night, which is your 1 original ape plus the 3 new apes you just minted. Of course, the slurp juice is going to be consumed, but would you rather have slurp juice or an ape? The utility of the slurp juice is in minting new apes from your existing astro apes, so it’s a good investment of your slurp juice to use it. However, if you’re not confident in the outcome of the new apes, you may want to sell your slurp juice to someone (if they’re buying) so that they can take advantage and that way they would have the 3 additional apes. Either way, someone’s going to slurp that juice, so it just depends if you’re willing to take that risk. Maybe the new ape you mint will be valuable, and maybe it won’t. There’s nothing wrong with taking a more conservative stake, but there’s also a lot of opportunity so got to do what’s right for you and what’s right for your apes. It’s also important to note that the slurp juice is only going to work on your astro apes. It’s not going to work on your nvmbears, or your basedapes or onisociety or your foxsyndicate (etc…). It’s definitely not going to work on apes outside of the rarecandy ecosystem, so don’t even try it. You’re not going to be able to get 4 bored apes, even if you already have a bored ape. If you want a bored ape, you’re going to have to get them like anyone else: i.e. steal them from Seth Green. Now, you say, isn’t it wrong to steal a bored ape. Actually, no. Because code is law, if you steal a bored ape you are the legal owner of it because the code says you own it (or rather, because it’s assigned to your wallet which I guess would be the actual owner but I digress.) So, stealing a bored ape from Seth Green is not too hard. Seth Green loves to use slurp juice on his apes, so you just need to directly deposit a tampered slurp juice into Seth Green’s wallet. No, you might say “but why would Seth Green use the tampered slurp juice on his bored ape? Doesn’t Seth Green know that slurp juices don’t work on bored apes?” Yes, you really would think that by now he’d have caught on, but it works for me every time so obviously he hasn’t asked me or anyone else in the community about how slurp juices work. This is why it’s important that we talk to each other and share tips on slurp juice. Now if someone sent you a tampered slurp juice, you know not to use it on a bored ape or any other ape for that matter. Of course, it may not be easy to differentiate between a tampered slurp juice and a normal slurp. If you have a slurp juice in your wallet, you got to ask yourself: did I mint this slurp juice? have I already used this slurp juice on my apes? Did I get this slurp juice from a trusted community member? Now, if a tampered slurp juice is used on a ape, I’m sorry to say, it’s not going to mint a new ape. It’s tampered, it’s fake to be honest. It’s slurp juice, it’ll look just like any other slurp juice in your wallet, but it’s not. Instead of allowing you to consume the slurp juice to mint a new ape, so you’d have two apes instead of one ape (or rather n+1 apes where n is the current number of apes that you have), the tampered slurp juice is going to enact a transaction to reassign the ape from your wallet to some one elses’. “You might say, isn’t that stealing?” In the court of law, no, because code is law and the code that the micro-contract (i.e., the tampered slurp juice) executes is also law and this law states that you transferred the ape to another persons’ wallet. Now, that may make you feel sad if you get your apes hit with a fake slurp, but if you use a tampered slurp juice to steal Seth Green’s bored apes (or another ape he owns, you may have to hit him with the fake slurp a couple times before you snag a bored ape) you’ll feel pretty good so it all evens out I think. So, once you steal Seth Green’s bored ape, you can always sell it back to him, or you can display it in a public collection. So, a public collection is kinda like a wallet. Just like with a wallet you can look up and see how many apes someone has, you can do the same with a public collection. A public collection is a great place to display your apes, either the 3 apes you got by slurp juicing your original astro ape (maybe also plus the original ape you slurp juiced which would bring it up to 4 apes), or you could also display the ape you stole from Seth Green (and maybe the other 2-4 apes that you also stole from Seth Green in the processing of phishing for his bored ape.) Now, some may say it’s gauche to display stolen apes in your public collection. They say: “that’s a bit gauche to display stolen apes in a public collection, you should keep them in your wallet instead!” Now, I disagree with those people (code=law), but if you feel that way about it it’s not a big deal since other people will be able to see your 4-9 cool apes in the wallet as well (unless you keep your 1+3 astro apes in the public collection since you minted those, and then keep the 3-5 stolen apes in your wallet.)

              • UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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                1 year ago

                I don’t know if you found a copypasta or made one or if some cryptogrifter actually said that in an attempt to promote their particular cryptogrift but I can’t read that without thinking of this narrator: morshupls

                • AcidSmiley [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
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                  1 year ago

                  That was the actual grift and it led to a ton of people losing their overpriced ape jpgs because their slurp juice had been tampered with.

                • JohnBrownsBussy2 [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
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                  1 year ago

                  I see y’all aren’t getting it, so I went back and clarified a couple of things:

                  (Part 1): Let’s start with the ape. An ape is a simian, and a close cousin to humans. Thus, it’s only natural that we see ourselves in the ape. Obviously, we aren’t apes, and you shouldn’t call anyone an ape, but when we see apes dress up in clothes and wear hats and smoke cigars, we all say “he just like me, fr fr fr.” Because of this congruency, there is a natural human desire to acquire apes and dress them in the most fantastic of costumes. Now, it you took an ape from the wild or a zoo or a LA mansion and kidnapped it and dressed in a t-shirt and jean shorts, well that would be wrong. That’s because apes are living things and should be treated with respect. After they’re just like you and me (fr fr fr). So, the question is how should make satiate its natural but immoral lust for apes in silly clothing? In the recent past, we’ve seen attempts at simulations of dressing up apes like Spore and Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, but these have been limited in scope and insufficient in fulfilling man’s need for ape in hat. Fortunately, the development of non-fungible tokens has finally enabled the collection of clothed apes in a way that both brings a smile to the face of both young and old while respect the dignity of our noble simian siblings and their right to be free to live and frolic in either the highlands of east Africa or the backyard of an influencer’s house free from the restriction of wearing pants. Now, there are many types of ape (and other dressed creatures that have also been immortalized in non-fungible tokens). One key type of ape is an Astro ape (which themselves may be subdivided into lab monkes and special forces (Astro apes)). No, we all like apes, and we all want more apes, but sometimes it can be difficult or expensive or inconvenient to mint a new ape. That’s where slurp juice comes in. Now, slurp juices aren’t apes. It’s juice. Now, it’s not a juice that you drink. Just like your apes (where they be bored or based or of the kind Astro variety) Rather, it’s a non-fungible token just like your ape (assuming that you have ape, and to be clear slurp juice !=ape (also to be clear when we use the “!=” that means that the thing on one side of the equation is not equal to the other side. This is a programmer thing, so if your new to the community and you haven’t learned a lot about programming you may not have seen before. It basically means the inverse of the two quantities or qualities being equal to each other (i.e., they are not equal) in part, this is because the normal “not equal sign” (you know, the equals sign with the line through it) is not really available on keyboards. That way, this version of the not equal sign is very easy to type and is often used in Boolean logic by programmers. Boolean logic is logic where things equal each other (“=”) or do not equal each other (“!=”). Boolean logic also includes less than (“<”) and greater than (“>”), and these “operations” are resolved to give a result of TRUE or FALSE. Depending on if things are TRUE or FALSE you would perform different tasks based on the Boolean logic (but I digress.)) Back to ape and slurp. So, let’s say that you have an ape, and would like to get some more apes. Maybe that astro ape is a Lab Monke, maybe it’s special forces, but it’s an ape, and who doesn’t want more apes. If you didn’t care for apes, I don’t think you would be asking these questions now would you. Now, if you’re in this situation you’d probably say, “I’ll just have to go mint more apes, or maybe buy one off the marketplace.” Now, that might be true for some apes, but for astro apes you can use a slurp juice. Not with every ape of course, but slurp juices were made for Astro apes. It’s a complementary collectible that you can use to mint an ape from an existing ape. Now, the key thing is that you can use multiple slurp juices on the same ape. A lot of people think that you use the slurp juice on an ape and then it’s gone. Now, that would sound scary: “what if I liked my original astro ape? I don’t want to slurp juice it away!” Fortunately, that’s not the case. When you use slurp juice on an ape, it mints a brand new ape. Yes, the slurp juice gets used up, but the original ape will remain in your collection. (To clarify, a mint is like making a new coin. Now, you’re not making any new coins actually, you’re making a new ape. But the process, the act creating something new that is, is much like would if you made a new coin so that’s why call it minting in the community.) So, let’s say that for the event you have your astro ape, and then you have 3 slurp juices. That means, by the end of the event, if you use all 3 slurp juices on your ape, you would be have 4 apes at the end of the night, which is your 1 original ape plus the 3 new apes you just minted. Of course, the slurp juice is going to be consumed, but would you rather have slurp juice or an ape? On one hand you could have 1 ape + 3 apes, or you could have 1 ape + 3 slurp juices. Now, either way you’d have 4 things, but like we established earlier, ape != slurp juice (again, “!=” = “not equal”), so you’d have 4 of one and 4 of the other and those 4 things aren’t the same so you are making a real choice. The utility of the slurp juice is in minting new apes from your existing astro apes, so it’s a good investment of your slurp juice to use it.

  • Kuori [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    1 year ago

    imo i feel like the disengage rule should really only apply amongst comrades. it will just be used to silence us otherwise and the libs have plenty of ways to do that without us handing them another

    plus giving the libs a magic debate-winning word seems like it validates their worldview a bit too much, idk

  • MF_COOM [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    1 year ago

    This is the dumbest fucking shit. Been here since day one first time I’m hearing about this rule.

    Closest I remember is some member a couple of years ago was melting down in a thread and posting up a storm ending all their comments with “Disengage!” phrased as an imperative and we dunked on them for a couple of days and then I totally forgot about it.

    I’m of the opinion that anyone is free to disengage from any conversation by putting their fucking phone down and spending some time with real people or reading a book. Trying to get the last word and then ordering someone else to disengage is ridiculous, and this is a ridiculous rule that honestly I cannot imagine following.

    Obviously if someone said, as I have, something like “look this exchange is really getting to me emotionally and I need to just step away from this, have a good night comrade” that’s of course a different story, but everyone here is pretty caring I can’t see why we’d need a magic word.

    • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
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      1 year ago

      Tough break, them’s the rules.

      If someone’s interpreting everything I saw in the worst possible way, and if I’m also upset, I’d rather have a simple one word exit button rather than have to craft a whole explanation and hope that there’s no way to interpret as adding something else that would legitimize a response.