I’ve lived in a big city for years now. Never seen anybody get mugged, or shot, or carjacked, despite doing activist work that often has me visiting poor minority neighborhoods.

The only time I ever really felt uneasy was when I had to walk alone at night through a neighborhood where all the businesses had bars on the windows. Worst thing that happened was a couple of people asking me for money, and they didn’t give me any shit when I said I didn’t carry cash.

But any time I visit the small town where I grew up there’s always someone or another acting like I came back from a fucking warzone lmao

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      Elitist? Brother you literally started the thread saying cities suck dick and depicted yourself as chad.

      • Elitist? Brother you literally started the thread saying cities suck dick

        They do, I’m not saying rural life is objectively better though. It’s all trade offs, I prefer the rural areas. Why do you cringe at the idea that someone would prefer to live in the rural areas. I can understand why you’d live in the city. I just won’t accept when shitheads looks down on me for my preferences.

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        The issue is not that you don’t like city, but that you’ve done the conservative thing where you take something how it is currently and decide that that’s how it is for all time. “Surrounded by cars, smog and noise” this is not an essential characteristic of cities. No one here supports car-centric infrastructure, air pollution or noise pollution, and there are things that can be done to make cities nicer places to live.

        The other issue is that your rhetoric plays into the conservative dichotomy of the cities as dirty and savage (and nonwhite) and the rural as bucholic, peaceful (and white). Which is not true at all. There is poverty, horrible poverty in rural areas, violence, and like most of the infrastructure is falling apart in most of the country. And good luck living in the country without a car, if you want to talk about car-centric infrastructure.

        And third, this “cities suck I prefer the trees and nature” rhetoric always leads one place, and that’s to individualist, private landownership, the western ideal, where you’re given a little fiefdom to lord over as you try to separate yourself from your fellow man and live as a “rugged individual.” Even in rural areas, it would be better if people lived closer together and were more dependent upon one another-more sustainable, and better for societal cohesion.

        So I’m not saying you hold these beliefs or anything, but just trying to give you a sense of why people react so strongly to them. You can have preferences, but this rhetoric historically (and still does) lend itself to extreme reaction. Rural areas are obviously important, but they need to be reimagined just as cities do.

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          It’s really just a personal preference. I don’t like living in crowded places. It’s not anti-social or misanthropic. I like other people. But I get agitated in crowded areas. It makes me unhappy to be constantly surrounded by people.

          I don’t need a personal fief. I don’t care if I lived in a collectived area where I was close to my neighbors. That sounds fine. But it’s important to me that I have nature available to me. So if I could walk out of my collective into some trees I don’t own, that would be great. Public parks are okay, but they aren’t the same, and they’re always packed with people, too.

          I’m sorry, but there’s no way to reimagine cities in a way that they won’t be crowded and noisy. People make a lot of noise just bustling about without cars. Some people like that feeling, and that’s cool. But I don’t.

        • but that you’ve done the conservative thing where you take something how it is currently and decide that that’s how it is for all time. “Surrounded by cars, smog and noise” this is not an essential characteristic of cities.

          “Man I hate my farming job because of shitty pay and long hours.”

          “Uh actually, the shitty pay and long hours is not an essential characteristic of farming so you’re being a conservative.”

          The possibility of things getting better does not make living in the city now any more pleasant.

          The other issue is that your rhetoric plays into the conservative dichotomy of the cities as dirty and savage

          Your pro-city rhetoric plays into the neoliberal dichotomy of cities being civilized places and rural areas being filled with country bumpkins. I don’t think you’re a neoliberal though because I can understand how sharing one view doesn’t mean you believe the same thing.

          And third, this “cities suck I prefer the trees and nature” rhetoric always leads one place, and that’s to individualist, private landownership,

          No it doesn’t. It literally does not mean this in any meaningful way. I specifically prefer the rural areas because I have better access to local community and state parks. My love for nature is just about the most collective it can be. I can’t believe people on hexbear are unironically stating it is individualist and supportive of landownership to enjoy nature.