Good thing we (the US) lost the war, or this lady would probably have her own team of lobbyists running their country.

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    based on what?

    Being Human

    at what point(s) does it start applying?

    First breath; fetuses aren’t people

    at what point(s) does it stop?

    It doesn’t.

    what about a hypothetical uploaded mind?

    Getting a bit off topic your advocacy of murdering people after their wealth has been seized

    in an ideal world, maybe we should.

    Why the hell advocate violence if not to effect ideals?

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      being human

      which is what?

      first breath

      why?

      it doesn’t

      okay so when I die where does that dignity go? my writings? my body, my soul?

      because your version of this idea sounds anawful lot like a soul.

      getting a bit off topic

      no I’m not, you just can’t answer because you haven’t thought out your ideas. I don’t even think they’re inherently bad, I think youre just wearing them like an aesthetic.

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        being human
        which is what?

        A supernatural comedy drama on BBC3

        why?

        What are you, a toddler? You asked for a cutoff and I gave you one. If you didn’t want an answer, don’t ask.

        okay so when I die where does that dignity go? my writings? my body, my soul?
        because your version of this idea sounds anawful lot like a soul.

        What’s your point? I never mentioned “a soul” as it relates to human dignity but if even you seem to be using it as equivalent to or allegory for writings so what if it does sound like that?

        Like you seem to be trying to sculpt my position to some preconceived notion you have of organized faith so you can then attack that when I have never mentioned religion.

        I just said you shouldn’t murder people once you’ve already seized “their” assets.

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          see I don’t respect the BBC.

          what makes that cutoff meaningful? seems arbitrary. explain why its not?

          is my corpse deserving of dignity? the computer program? the whale?

          I’m saying you have essentialized ‘human’ and designated it special, without any explanation (or appreciation) of why it’s special or cool. it sounds an awful lot like ‘the thing I am is special because I’m one’. which sounds pretty Fucking religious to me.

          so explain. feel free to get weird with it.

          I’m also saying you can’t sieze all their assets. money isn’t just money, and its not the only thing that’s money.

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            see I don’t respect the BBC.

            You shouldn’t.

            what makes that cutoff meaningful?

            Fetuses don’t have rights.

            I’m also saying you can’t sieze all their assets. money isn’t just money, and its not the only thing that’s money.

            What the heck are you talking about? Find the things which can be exchanged for goods and services and that those things away. Cart off shiny rocks. 0 out electronic ledgers

            Billionaire handshakes are meaningless. If you’ve seized all the food and means of production what does it matter if gardeners try to play Parker Bros. with one another?

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              the BBC

              so sane page then.

              …??

              see I notice you ignored the hard part of what I have to say, which tells me you can’t really describe this thing you respect or why you respect it.

              money is real and not just a fantasy bullshit excuse

              okay see this is just super unrealistic.

              yeah sure after its already established for a while and money is a historical relic like skull calipers you can ignore them. that takes a while, and they’re threats until then.