• robinn_IV [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    7 months ago

    The other stuff was to show off the two viable options one is objectively worse for Gaza.

    And I showed that your reasoning for this is objectively incorrect, as well as the fact that your method of “action” doesn’t actually cause a leftward shift or save anything.

    There was a shift as well. Barrbaric responded to your argument that Biden was better for Gaza, and instead of listening, you simply ignored it and wrote “Answer the first question.” I could show how this follows exactly what I said in my comment, or you could scroll up.

    • thereisalamp@reddthat.comEnglish
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      7 months ago

      And once again yall fail.

      Ultimately, I don’t really care if you agree with my reasoning. I want you to point out what the best option in November is. Because it sure as shit isn’t trump.

      And not surprisingly, all you seem chariot activists who only just now started giving a shit about the Palestinian suffering after ignoring it for the last 70 years, have no viable solution. Because you haven’t done shit in the last 70 years to elect a congress (the same congress who ratified the treaty with Isreal hampering the “near unlimited powers of state the president has” the same congress who keeps sending money to Isreal that the president can’t just not send, unless you need Biden to be impeached, like trump did when he denied congressional funding to Ukraine, further hampering that do called near unlimited power) or the white house, to effectively change our foreign policy in the middle east. Hell you haven’t done shit even since Netanyahu showed his true fascist colors.

      Yall want to come on the interwebs and beat your chest, despite the fact that we’ve finally got aide for Gaza in a bill finally, and bitch and moan that Biden can’t overturn 70 years of foreign policy in less than a year when you woke up to a 70 year plight.

      When November comes I’ll pick Gazas best hope in a two party election and sleep with the knowledge that I did the best I could with what was available, then continue to work to support a better party. Keep hitting the sidewalk to get better. Get signatures. And you? You’ll still look like a toddler day dreaming of rainbow shitting unicorns rather than being the adult you are and doing what you can with what you have while actively, and actually working, to make things better.

      • robinn_IV [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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        7 months ago

        Holy shit you’re stupid oh my God. Actual “adults in the room” brainrot.

        And not surprisingly, all you seem chariot activists who only just now started giving a shit about the Palestinian suffering after ignoring it for the last 70 years, have no viable solution.

        I haven’t been alive for 70 years, but I’ve cared about Palestinian suffering and Israeli colonialism since I was 15. You don’t give a fuck, whining about a “viable solution” as an excuse to support the status quo while your “harm reduction” candidate ships off bombs for Israel to flatten another Palestinian village. There is no electoralism when it comes to imperialism, some mythical candidate that will somehow end US interference abroad by decree (where I specifically, in my other comment, brought up the point that any Democratic leadership will simply finance the farthest rightward candidate in the GOP instead of moving left in order to coerce idiots like you into thinking you came up with the brilliant rational idea of voting for the “lesser evil” anyways—shown by, in that comment, the DNC leading Trump to power prior to the 2016 election, and Democratic funding by the millions for far-right Republicans).

        I don’t just “disagree with” your reasoning, you have made claims that are objectively false and when asked to own up to this you default back to “give me a better option,” as if you don’t have to justify your default option. Voting for Biden is not harm reduction, and as far as a solution goes it’s found in shipping your money off to Ansar Allah and Iran rather than playing the electoral game, since the liberation of the colonies is fundamentally the first step in eliminating bourgeois electoralism as the height of domestic political action.

        It’s so naive to act like Israel just showed its “true fascist colors” or that the issue can be limited to Netanyahu, Zionist leaders since before the founding of Israel openly writing down their plans for the colonization and ethnic cleansing of Palestine.

        the same congress who keeps sending money to Isreal that the president can’t just not send, unless you need Biden to be impeached, like trump did when he denied congressional funding to Ukraine, further hampering that do called near unlimited power)

        I already showed in another reply that Biden has repeatedly bypassed Congressional approval for weapons sales to Israel, all you had to do was scroll up (you had five days to do this) and you wouldn’t embarrass yourself like this Jesus. This “Congress is holding him back” myth has been so thoroughly disproven that your brain has to be leaking out of your ears to repeat it.

        and bitch and moan that Biden can’t overturn 70 years of foreign policy in less than a year when you woke up to a 70 year plight.

        Oh wow I had no idea he was working to overturn 70 years of foreign policy. Has Biden even paid lip service to an end to US support for Israel, or has he, on the contrary, kept up material support while “scolding” Netanyahu to placate critics?; to quote my reply that you had five fucking days to read:

        “The settler state of Israel already has blind, unwavering support from Biden, and if you think otherwise you’ve been duped. It reminds me of those ‘leaked’ conversations that libs fell for wrt US support for Saudi Arabia. You on the one hand have Biden calling for Israel to stop its genocide, and on the other quietly shipping them the weapons to continue it. It’s all optics.”

        Wow you’ll get signatures? Maybe the US will send more “aid” while at the same time backing the genocide diplomatically and financially, this disparity really being a sign of progress and not a cynical way of keeping up appearances without changing anything.