“Every previous president would have ended it by now.”

“Biden literally couldn’t do worse.”

  • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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    What do you believe is the underlying set of values and principles guiding Hexbear?

    What do you believe the goals of people on Hexbear are?

    Is it possible to analyze the beliefs that lead them to the conclusions they have, so as to better argue against them, than to call them MAGA supporters?

    I myself will probably be voting Biden, for transparency, but this meme is just a gross misunderstanding of how disaffected leftists, and Marxists in general, operate, and why.

    • Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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      6 months ago

      The creeps on Hexbear aren’t leftists. I’ve never come across a coherent and useful definition of “leftist” that includes them.

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        6 months ago

        Why do you say that? They oppose Capitalism, colonialism, Imperialism, and bigotry. They support Socialism, Communism, and Anarchism. They read Marx, Lenin, and Goldman, and share memes based on Marxist theory.

        On what grounds do you decide that they aren’t leftists? Is it because you disagree with their stances, as a presumed leftist, therefore anyone you disagree with cannot be a leftist? Is it because you think they are bad people, and bad people can’t be leftists? Is it just vibes?

        What is your coherent and useful definition of leftism? We can compare Hexbear’s stated goals and see if it lines up better with leftism or rightism.

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          6 months ago

          Being a leftist requires one to oppose capitalism.

          Leninism is a blatantly capitalist system that pretends otherwise.

          Also, they don’t oppose bigotry. Once someone from Hexbear said that Hexbear was more pro-trans than any trans space was, and their fellows seemed to agree with them. Paying lip service to anti-bigotry does not mean one is not an ignorant bigot to the core.

          Edit: there are other problems with what you said, but frankly, I’m not going to waste my time addressing every part of the gish-Gallup.