EDIT: as one of the admins explained below, they plan to migrate to something whitch uses ActivityPub, which means that my concerns are gone. I liked the interactions between servers who are equally wholesome compared to beehaw, which will be possible after the migration because of ActivityPub. So therefore, my sadness is canceled.)

The internet has already some queer forums similar to beehaw. For instance raddle.me and i am sure there are more that i don’t know. Both have their unique flair and that’s fine. I think lemmy (or more precisely, the ActivityPub powered fediverse that is at the core of lemmy) presents the unique oportunity to avoid isolated corners of the internet. I like raddle and beehaw, but i notice that i seldom read raddle and i think if beehaw goes to a similar isolated platform, i will probably read beehaw less.

I know that the mods tried to talk to the devs and their desinterest is equally sad.

However, i think you as a big instance still have one unused tool to fix lemmy’s moderation issues within the “near short timeframe”: talk to nlnet, the initial sponsor and explain to them your moderation issues. I think https://nlnet.nl/ would be interested given that lemmy is quite popular.

i think this could lead to two solutions:

  • nlnet understands the issue and comes back to the lemmy devs and integrates the moderation tools into the next milestone so that the lemmy devs are more forced to develop those things.
  • nlnet understands the issue and hires independent developers who fix the moderation tools which could either be integrated into lemmy (i think the devs wouldn’t say no to this) - or it could lead to a fork.
  • UngodlyAudrey🏳️‍⚧️@beehaw.orgEnglish
    22·
    7 months ago

    It’s less disinterest and more hostility. The Lemmy devs straight up don’t want us here. Even if they fix the moderation issues, I don’t think it’s a great idea to stay on the platform in the long term.

    • alyaza [they/she]@beehaw.orgMEnglish
      18·
      7 months ago

      yeah the difficulty here really is: even if we wanted to stick around (i think the consensus is not especially) and even if we did get the mod tools we think are needed (no reason to believe this will happen), the bridge here is burned pretty definitively. i don’t personally see the sense in sticking around on a place where the people stewarding the software have an actively adversarial relationship with us

      • millie@beehaw.orgEnglish
        8·
        7 months ago

        This is definitely what makes something along the lines of Piefed look really attractive imo. It would be great to be able to still connect to the larger Lemmy community without having to deal with their terrible devs.

  • 🐝bownage [they/he]@beehaw.orgEnglish
    8·
    7 months ago

    Great idea I think! I had no idea this was actually a Dutch org, but it makes sense given the name lol.

    @ admins if you are willing to consider this, feel free to give me a shout if you want help reaching out to them (I’m Dutch). I assume their English will be fine, but I could help translate if there is ever a need :) (could even visit them in Amsterdam, potentially)

    • Chris Remington@beehaw.orgMEnglish
      26·
      7 months ago

      We’ve (the admins) already decided on the platform we will be moving to and it will make use of ActivityPub. We haven’t made a public announcement yet. That is coming soon.