He was 10, but in photographs from his last days in Gaza, he looks both small for his age and at the same time ancient. By the next day, Yazan was dead.
The Irgun were bombing Arabians in the 30’s, 50 years earlier.
Irgun was described as a terrorist organization by The New York Times, the Anglo-American Committee of Enquiry, prominent world figures such as Winston Churchill and Jewish figures such as Hannah Arendt, Albert Einstein, and many others. Irgun launched a series of attacks which lasted until the founding of Israel. All told, Irgun attacks against Arab targets resulted in at least 250 Arab deaths during this period
The Battle of Tel Hai, which lead to those protests, is a part of the Franco-Syrian war, and not even considered a part of the intercommunal conflict by many.
Ie not related to the conflict we’re talking about.
In the wake of the protests, sheikhs of 82 villages around the city and Jaffa, claiming to represent 70% of the population, issued a document protesting the demonstrations against the Jews.
The leaders of the local Arab community protested the Arab Nationalists, despite the growing Zionism.
You just can’t admit to Israel bearing any part of the blame. I show you history of zionists bombing hundreds of people dead and you think linking a small protest that was barely violent somehow makes the currently ongoing genocide alright?
That kind of willfull ignorance is what enabled the holocaust.
And now you’re proudly displaying it.
It turns my stomach, literally.
You don’t understand that I am not saying “Israel started it”. I’m mocking you for not realising how childish going “but mooooom, he started it” is.
trying to unsuccessfully prove that it were the Jews
You didn’t read the last line of my previous comment?
Here:
You don’t understand that I am not saying “Israel started it”. I’m mocking you for not realising how childish going “but mooooom, he started it” is.
That being said, while the origins of the conflict are clearly multifaceted, the Zionists seem to have a bit more of a… presence in the history books than Palestinian nationalists. The rhetoric of “divine right” versus “but we fucking live here already”.
It’s extremely naive to think that if Hamas were to say “okay, you win, here are the hostages” that this clearly purposeful ethnic cleansing would just stop and all the hostilities would seize and that Hamas somehow had a way to enforce a seize-fire in the first place. You were saying “unironically, yeah, it would”. No, it clearly wouldn’t as we’ve just demonstrated just how far back the conflict goes.
Which, to remind you, is at least 50 years before Hamas was even founded.
“How extremely one-sided many of the arguments are”
You mean like… people saying that no matter what Hamas has done, it doesn’t excuse Israel committing genocide, perpetuating war crimes, breaking basic human rights? Because, that’s not “one-sided”, because no matter what Hamas has done, **genocide is inexcusable. **
So do you think Israel is guilty of breaking international laws and conventions?
Holy shit. It doesn’t matter if the Jews did committing acts of terrorism during ww2, and it doesn’t matter that Hamas has committed acts of terrorism.
And I can tell you why it doesn’t matter in one (slightly run-on) sentence.
Because no act of terrorism justifies the actions that Israel has taken against Palestinian civilians just as nothing that was done or could have been done by the Jews leading up to WW2 would have justified the holocaust
There is no justification for genocide. Israel can attempt to eliminate Hamas for the actions committed on Oct 7th, but that doesn’t justify their complete disregard for civilian safety and well-being. (Nearly 30k palestinian civilians dead already)
Also, I just want to make it clear that almost every piece of rhetoric that has been used to excuse Israel’s actions in this genocide, were also used to justify the actions taken against the Jews during WW2. And I’m sorry, but if you’re falling for it now, you probably would have fallen for it then too.
“If we just don’t make a
fuzzfuss and walk to the trains and the gas chambers peacefully, I’m sure they’ll treat us better”You can’t be that delusional
edit fuzz -> fuss
It’s “Fuse” btw
Take an upvote, you made me laugh
Fuss* it’s the best look to not proofread lol but I was just trying to let you know.
Yeah that’s true, “fuzz” is what I had on my lip when I was 14.
But “making fuses” also works in the context, lol.
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Are you serious?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_resistance_in_German-occupied_Europe
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You know what was happening concurrently with WWII?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revisionist_Zionism
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_insurgency_in_Mandatory_Palestine
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Irgun_attacks
So you’re claiming “Hamas started it”?
Hamas was founded in the late 80’s.
The Irgun were bombing Arabians in the 30’s, 50 years earlier.
Irgun was described as a terrorist organization by The New York Times, the Anglo-American Committee of Enquiry, prominent world figures such as Winston Churchill and Jewish figures such as Hannah Arendt, Albert Einstein, and many others. Irgun launched a series of attacks which lasted until the founding of Israel. All told, Irgun attacks against Arab targets resulted in at least 250 Arab deaths during this period
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The Battle of Tel Hai, which lead to those protests, is a part of the Franco-Syrian war, and not even considered a part of the intercommunal conflict by many.
Ie not related to the conflict we’re talking about.
In the wake of the protests, sheikhs of 82 villages around the city and Jaffa, claiming to represent 70% of the population, issued a document protesting the demonstrations against the Jews.
The leaders of the local Arab community protested the Arab Nationalists, despite the growing Zionism.
You just can’t admit to Israel bearing any part of the blame. I show you history of zionists bombing hundreds of people dead and you think linking a small protest that was barely violent somehow makes the currently ongoing genocide alright?
That kind of willfull ignorance is what enabled the holocaust.
And now you’re proudly displaying it.
It turns my stomach, literally.
You don’t understand that I am not saying “Israel started it”. I’m mocking you for not realising how childish going “but mooooom, he started it” is.
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You didn’t read the last line of my previous comment? Here:
That being said, while the origins of the conflict are clearly multifaceted, the Zionists seem to have a bit more of a… presence in the history books than Palestinian nationalists. The rhetoric of “divine right” versus “but we fucking live here already”.
It’s extremely naive to think that if Hamas were to say “okay, you win, here are the hostages” that this clearly purposeful ethnic cleansing would just stop and all the hostilities would seize and that Hamas somehow had a way to enforce a seize-fire in the first place. You were saying “unironically, yeah, it would”. No, it clearly wouldn’t as we’ve just demonstrated just how far back the conflict goes.
Which, to remind you, is at least 50 years before Hamas was even founded.
“How extremely one-sided many of the arguments are”
You mean like… people saying that no matter what Hamas has done, it doesn’t excuse Israel committing genocide, perpetuating war crimes, breaking basic human rights? Because, that’s not “one-sided”, because no matter what Hamas has done, **genocide is inexcusable. **
So do you think Israel is guilty of breaking international laws and conventions?
Lol you seriously said that with a straight face huh? Need to brush up on your history bud.
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Holy shit. It doesn’t matter if the Jews did committing acts of terrorism during ww2, and it doesn’t matter that Hamas has committed acts of terrorism.
And I can tell you why it doesn’t matter in one (slightly run-on) sentence.
Because no act of terrorism justifies the actions that Israel has taken against Palestinian civilians just as nothing that was done or could have been done by the Jews leading up to WW2 would have justified the holocaust
There is no justification for genocide. Israel can attempt to eliminate Hamas for the actions committed on Oct 7th, but that doesn’t justify their complete disregard for civilian safety and well-being. (Nearly 30k palestinian civilians dead already)
Also, I just want to make it clear that almost every piece of rhetoric that has been used to excuse Israel’s actions in this genocide, were also used to justify the actions taken against the Jews during WW2. And I’m sorry, but if you’re falling for it now, you probably would have fallen for it then too.
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