• ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Everyone always calls me edgy when I bring this up but it’s because believing in an obvious fairy tale shows a massive issue with critical thinking and cognitive capability.

    These people essentially still believe in Santa Claus and will die for that belief.

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      8 months ago

      More commonly, will murder for that belief. Which is why this isn’t some edgelord topic, it’s something we need to deal with seriously as a society.

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      8 months ago

      I’m not religious but I dunno. Could you say that about, say the archbishop of Canterbury? The guy’s got ten times the brains and university degrees than you and I put together tbh

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        If the smartest man alive told you he would kill for Santa Claus would that not terrify you?

        You could be an alien with such a complex knowledge and understanding of physics that you can manipulate matter on a molecular scale but the minute you bring up the almighty Kloothorp as your lord and savior I’m out.

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          You say that belief in an “obvious fairy tale shows a massive issue with critical thinking and cognitive ability” , but you can’t back that up because people who are smart and religious exist.

          I agree that believing in something phantasmagorical is a cognitive blind spot. But that’s so common criticizing others for it lacks self awareness. It’s normal to take some obviously symbolic, illusory, or non-existent things seriously: the law, borders, sovereignty, human rights, authority, hierarchy, language, logic, or math. Are you terrified of those willing to die for human rights?

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            We’re talking a lot of different types of smart, though.

            For example said archbishop is obviously smart. And religious. And the two are the same, he’d be an idiot not to uphold the structure that gives him power, at least to the outside. That’s what religion is, a power structure, and you’d be a fool to think those in power believe in the fairy tale instead of the structure.

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            8 months ago

            people who are smart and religious exist.

            Precisely. And if they can’t accept that, and just downvote anyone that disagrees with them, they just proved the existence of ignorant, non-religious people

            The delicious irony 😂

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              Depends on how you define smart. Knows many facts? Sure. Able to look at a puzzle and figure it out? Sure. But believing in an invisible Sky Daddy who may or may not talk directly or indirectly to people and getting your morals from books riddled with contradictions and things that are considered immoral and illegal isn’t smart.

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        8 months ago

        The guy with “Jesus is coming, look busy” tattooed on his ass?