• Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world
    1021·
    9 months ago

    The UI of Youtube is actually not bad. What is bad is how the search function has gone to shit, constant promotion of youtube Shorts taking up half the screen, and the algorithm getting steadily worse at recommending videos.
    The interface itself is pretty easy to navigate.

    • Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip
      261·
      9 months ago

      imo loading several video recommendations while im just scrolling through comments is very bad, especially because the API calls are seperate and load both sides seperately. huge waste of bandwith when im only interested in the text, which is barely any bandwidth

    • Joe Cool@lemmy.ml
      172·
      9 months ago

      Youtube 2012 loaded in 1 second on a 5MBit line. HTML, CSS and JS for a page was a few hundred kilobytes.

      You can profile the current “responsive” version in your browser. It might not look horrible but it’s a technical abomination. I doubt it’ll even load anymore in a browser from 2012.

      • sfgifz@lemmy.world
        91·
        9 months ago

        100% certain that if they kept their 2012 UI, we’d be complaining about how outdated their UI is.

        • myxi@feddit.nlEnglish
          81·
          9 months ago

          No? That would be true if we were the Twitter community. But, for Lemmy, I am pretty sure most people that are on Lemmy fancy Reddit’s outdated old.reddit.com UI as well because it’s more simple. Things are much lighter, but still work.

      • lud@lemm.ee
        45·
        9 months ago

        Well luckily we don’t use browsers from 2012. Thanks god for that. Modern browsers and web standards are so much better.

    • BigBenis@lemmy.world
      8·
      9 months ago

      I do feel like the mobile app has been getting progressively buggier over the last year. Maybe it’s just me but the mini-player has been glitching out for months and other weird stuff has been getting more prevalent like yesterday I had the YouTube play button icon stretched and distorted as an overly across the whole app until I restarted it and creating a queue didn’t work until I started a new video manually.

      • ed_cock@feddit.de
        3·
        9 months ago

        I hate the app so much, it always starts to play random shit while I’m just browsing/searching.

      • Joe Cool@lemmy.ml
        1·
        9 months ago

        I couldn’t tell you. I ditched it for GrayJay since it was in alpha and couldn’t be happier.

    • 0ops@lemm.ee
      2·
      9 months ago

      I really don’t like how hitting the back button minimizes the currently playing video instead of going back to the previous played video, personally

  • stochastictrebuchet@sh.itjust.works
    69·
    9 months ago

    You forgot Quora. That site used to be semi-useful. These days I can never tell whether I’m reading an actual answer to the question or just some random recommended post that’s been shoved in in between.

  • vmachiel@lemmy.world
    41·
    9 months ago

    It’s actually optimized for them. The goal is to get users to spend time and see ads etc. The UI is not made for us users.

  • drathvedro@lemm.ee
    434·
    9 months ago

    Haha, you think those are bad? Try any professional tools, like CAD’s, DAW’s, or 3d modelling software.

    Or, even worse, any internal corporate software, the bigger and the older the company is, the better… at being the worst, that is.

    Or. actually, just go to an any airline’s office to buy a ticket and witness the atrocity they have on their monitors. No, those are not blue screens of death. That bunch of gibberish is the actual UI. And the only way to interact with it is by typing in commands that read like something that Lovecraftian creatures would sound like.

    • wieson@feddit.de
      17·
      9 months ago

      Command line isn’t actually bad UI for professionals. It’s way faster than using a mouse.

      • drathvedro@lemm.ee
        1·
        9 months ago

        Command line isn’t bad, but that isn’t quite it. It’s a terminal, but not really command line, think more like htop as compared to gnu utils. And they use it not because it’s efficient, but because it dates back to where there was no other option. It’s extremely convoluted, and if you’ve ever had problems with airlines before (mainly baggage) - chances are, it’s because somebody messed something up in this system.

    • thevoidzero@lemmy.world
      41·
      9 months ago

      I haven’t tried many CAD softwares but AutoCAD has really intuitive UI. I used to be able to find most things by just thinking what tab it should be based on what it is. It actually inspired me to learn better programming and software design to make something intuitive. I haven’t used it in years since I came to Linux so as long as they haven’t changed it.

    • Gabu@lemmy.world
      41·
      9 months ago

      Are you a zoomer? Command line is way better than a billion little buttons

    • chiliedogg@lemmy.world
      2·
      9 months ago

      Those systems are so much faster and more reliable than the bubbly shit we have now. All that crap on the screen is what we call “information density.” It’s designed for people who work with it several hours a day and understand it, not for some random to be able to learn in 15 minutes. It has a longer learning curve, but is way more efficient in the end.

      • gandalf_der_12te@feddit.de
        1·
        9 months ago

        I agree. That stuff tends to be much more stable than the newy swipe-and-drag interfaces. These designs are basically unbreakable. I dig that so.

      • Suck_on_my_Presence@lemmy.world
        8·
        9 months ago

        Hahahahaha. I hate SAP with a burning fury. I’m not sure if it’s looked like this for a long time as I’ve only been in my career three years, but yep yep yep yep, looks exactly the same.

        • brbposting@sh.itjust.works
          5·
          9 months ago

          Then it’s looked like that for at least a decade, nice.

          Imagine they have new versions with new UIs, but legacy businesses ain’t gonna pay for those upgrades and retraining and re-integration costs!

          • ed_cock@feddit.de
            3·
            9 months ago

            Then it’s looked like that for at least a decade, nice.

            Imagine they have new versions with new UIs, but legacy businesses ain’t gonna pay for those upgrades and retraining and re-integration costs!

            Imagine that they want every customer to move to their new “cloud” system, S/4HANA, come hell or high water. Because that’s happening, apparently.

  • rainynight65@feddit.de
    353·
    9 months ago

    Anyone who thinks that these three have the worst UI possible has never had to deal with a really bad UI. Try Sharepoint on for size. Or Azure. Or Jira. And there’s likely still way worse stuff than those.

  • KingOfTheCouch@lemmy.ca
    321·
    9 months ago

    I’m not seeing “Amazon” or the plethora of online shopping stores that have followed in its footprint of complete and utter shit. To this day, I can’t understand how Amazon became so big with a user interface so fucking awful but goes to show it doesn’t actually fucking matter.

    • bcron@lemmy.world
      141·
      9 months ago

      Amazon UI is so bad if you type ‘subs’ in the product search it auto-suggests ‘subscriptions on my account’ and a dozen ‘subscribe and save’ variations because people wind up using the product search trying to find that stuff.

    • DoomsdaySprocket@lemmy.caEnglish
      3·
      9 months ago

      How many of your machines use Comic Sans font on the operator touchscreen?

      And how many times has someone had to pull the PLC programming to resize the button clip art jpegs to fix and overlap that caused the machine to run 2 different functions at the same time if they tapped too close to one side?

    • kevincox@lemmy.ml
      6·
      9 months ago

      I really don’t get Discord. Why would I want all of my chats in different top-level sections? I much prefer just having a list of groups that I am a part of. I do like sorting them into priority and low priority but that is all I want and it is independent of “server”.

      • rosemash@social.raincloud.dev
        7·
        9 months ago

        Discord servers aren’t meant to be chats, they are meant to be large communities, like subreddits. Discord is a hybrid between a chat app and a social media platform for meeting new people and joining large communities (that’s the intention of the design, at least)

        • dustyData@lemmy.worldEnglish
          31·
          9 months ago

          Discord doesn’t know what it wants to be, they just copied IRC without understanding why it was that way. Catered to gamers due to adding voicechat, then panicked and got confused by the surge of Slack, so they tried to be all serious, but not really, it’s a whole mess.

          The point of servers and channels used to have a very direct and straight forward relationship with reality, it mapped one to one to actual physical servers and internal protocol structures. Discord doesn’t need to have servers and channels, to them they are communities and chat topics. But they don’t need to be that either. It is stupid and mind boggling, like Twitter clones using 150 character limits, that made sense when the platform was SMS exclusive, but why would you have such an artificial limitation in a platform that doesn’t even admit SMS input? Other than chasing some platform nostalgia or ideological extremism about platform format.

          • rosemash@social.raincloud.dev
            1·
            9 months ago

            they just copied IRC without understanding why it was that way

            I believe it was clearly inspired fully by Slack, rather than IRC. I don’t think there was anything they copied from IRC specifically, and nobody in their target audience (gamers) was using IRC at the time discord blew up, so I don’t think that was their intention

            But I agree it is a silly use of the word “server” to refer to groups of channels. Internally Discord actually calls them guilds. Server might also be gaming lingo they were targeting (so people would think of joining a Discord server as akin to joining e.g. a Minecraft server)

            I actually like the top-level server structure. A community has user roles which control access to certain channels, the permissions can be either channel-specific or server-wide, and the roles are hierarchal with permission overrides specific to users. It makes it possible to have public chats with tens of thousands of users not be overcrowded, and have content organized into different spaces (memes, media, help/support, general, etc.) which just couldn’t be done on Skype, which was all people in this demographic were using at the time. And the idea of hierarchal management of permissions and roles allowed moderation of large communities, so everybody moved due to convenience.

    • rosemash@social.raincloud.dev
      42·
      9 months ago

      Discord’s UX is fantastic, thats part of the reason we all migrated from Skype. It’s just a recent redesign they made to their mobile app, that is most likely what this meme is referring to

  • LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world
    304·
    9 months ago

    GIMP

    How do you have these listed and not the myriad of FOSS products that are garbage to use.

    Y’all remember mumble? Easy peasy compared to discord amirite?