I like this platform, and hope it succeeds, however I have a question for the community - what are everyone’s thoughts on creators? I am one, for transparency-sake, and I am pretty sure we are not wanted here, since most of us have Adventures/ Art / Battle maps / Patreons / Kickstarters / Products to sell, even though we frequently give a lot of stuff for free to the community. Thoughts?
One direction to take this conversation is to legitimize a formal ads platform and move the technology in that direction. It’s not a concept that has had airtime in federated social(open source, anti-corporate and all) but it fits into the model of enthusiast communities to have a magazine that is “both articles and ads”.
I’m just confused by what you are asking. Are you asking if this community is OK with you self promoting D&D related stuff you made and want to sell? If it were up to me, I would say yes within reason, no one wants this community to become one loud ad. But I’m not sure the moderator would agree and it is up to them. I don’t see a no self-promotion rule yet but maybe message them directly?
If you just want to share content you found and generally participate like normal then I am absolutely sure you are wanted here.
My question was about the community’s outlook on the presence of creators in this space - and yes, that means at least some of the stuff they’d post would be self-promotion.
I dont think that the platform should turn into just a wall of ads, all of the subreddits had sensible rules for that, like only posting once a week etc.
The instance that this community is on does not allow ads. I do not know whether self-promotions fall under that… I feel like it does? So that would mean none of us are welcome here, at least in professional capacity.
You should always follow the rules of the instance, of course. But if you want to do something that is not within the rules of the instance, you can always set up your own instance or find another instance where this is allowed. Even if a community (like a subreddit) on an instance thinks a certain, way, they can’t conflict with the instance rules.
Creators would probably have to try sharing things in a way that users would not consider it an add. But those lines would be quite blurry, without any clarification from the instance moderators.
I, myself, have very limited time availability, and I really doubt I would have enough technical knowledge to set up an instance myself. I am also already running 2 discord communities… so right now running an instance on top of that is just not an option. That leaves me I guess just to wait and see if someone else creates something like that. Risking blurring lines on instance rules, investing my time and energy into a community that will likely ban me isn’t particularly appealing either :(.
That makes a lot of sense, hosting an instance is definitely not for everyone. But from what @Stoneykins@lemmy.one posted, it seems things like that would be allowed here. But it might be a good idea to bring this up in !lemmyworld@lemmy.world That is the general lemmy.world community, there we can get input from the instance admins.
Well, based on the linked rules, I guess it should be fine here.
I spent a while looking for a “no ads” rule and then I figured it out.
Your home instance sh.itjust.works , where your account lives, has a rule of no ads. Lemmy.world, where this D&D community lives, does not appear to (yet) have a broad rule against advertisements.
I would still ask the mod before posting self promotion tho.
here are the only rules relevant lemmy.world I could find (from mastadon.world):
“Regarding Spam: We are not your free advertising platform. If you are here only to sell your products or services, you will be removed. Occasional posts of commercial links are OK, but when the vast majority of a user’s posts are commercial in nature, we regard the account as a Spam account. Moderators will evaluate reports of Spam on a case by case basis.”
so it seems just do it in a restrained way and don’t let it be the majority of your content and it should be ok?
I mean… thing is… On reddit i have 80k karma because of my content posts. 99% of my posts there are my content posts. That would be considered “spamming” here, even if I only post once a week.
I’d much rather spend time painting an extra battle map for the community than sit on lemmy to hit whatever quota of interaction to not be considered a spammer.
As far as I know, we don’t have user based karma here. Only posts and comments get a score. But we really should make sure that the community does not get over-run with a specific type of post. Unless the community is for that specific purpose, of course.
But I can imagine that not every instance would like to host a “share your Kickstarter project” community, as those posts will also show up for the users that like to read all local posts. Here on Lemmy.world that feed would already be a full of stuff you aren’t interested in though, but that’s my opinion and I also never used r/all or any of the other extremely broad subreddits.
Apologies I somehow missed this thread. We are working on a solution to this issue at the moment and will be posting about it very soon. TLDR yes you will be able to self promote, with some caveats on how you go about doing that. This will make more sense soon so please stay tuned.
