Turn the question back, actually. Do the DDOSers even think they’re achieving anything relevant, beyond being a bit annoying? .world is down from time to time, wow, how terrible. It’s not like I can’t log onto any other server and interact with world’s channels and threads from there, only to have my posts and upvotes become globally available as soon as world is back- Oh, wait, that’s exactly how it works.
The ironic part is that unless they have access to a botnet or are operating their own colo facility, they are probably paying more to run the attack than the target is.
Each instance keeps a local copy of the communities they’re federated with. Users of that instance interact with the local copy, and instances communicate with each other to tell what’s going on.
This means that, if .world crashes at 5PM, and you have an account on lemm.ee, you can go to lemm.ee’s local copy of world->worldnews, find a thread started at 4PM, comment on it, and other lemm.ee users will see and upvote/downvote your comment.
When .world is back on at 7PM, lemm.ee will tell it: “Hey, Cold_Brew_Enema said [Thanks a lot for the gold kind stranger] and got 6 downvotes”, and .world will update the thread with your comment and downvotes for users of all instances to see.
This is my understanding of how it works, and I’m not familiar with the actual code, but it seems to be close to reality.
There may be some things that don’t get synced if the instance holding the pending federation messages also goes down or restarts because AFAIK they are stored in memory, not in persistent storage.
No, you make an alt-account on a non-world instance and interact with world communities from there. The only issue is that you aren’t carrying over your subscriptions and blocks unless you use a special tool, about which I don’t know much.
I tried figuring out how to use the Lemmy API to subscribe to all my subscriptions from my kbin account a week or two ago
I remember getting stuck and giving up, so I think I’m going to do it semi-manually or something later on, unless some kind wizard blesses me with the name of such a tool
No. It’s basically like signing in at another e-mail provider. Instead of asdfasdfasdf@yahoo.com you now have asdfasdfasdf@hotmail.com and can from then on e-mail the same contacts. Just with posts, threads and comments instead of e-mail of course.
From the recent update shared, it seems like the ddos is coming from inside the hoose (ie the ddos attacker might be another lemmy instance). In other words the point of the ddos appear to be to cause people to move off of lemmy.world. so in a way it is working. A lot of people are telling people to move off lemmy.world.
Turn the question back, actually. Do the DDOSers even think they’re achieving anything relevant, beyond being a bit annoying? .world is down from time to time, wow, how terrible. It’s not like I can’t log onto any other server and interact with world’s channels and threads from there, only to have my posts and upvotes become globally available as soon as world is back- Oh, wait, that’s exactly how it works.
The ironic part is that unless they have access to a botnet or are operating their own colo facility, they are probably paying more to run the attack than the target is.
If .world is down, can you still interact with it from other instances?
Each instance keeps a local copy of the communities they’re federated with. Users of that instance interact with the local copy, and instances communicate with each other to tell what’s going on.
This means that, if .world crashes at 5PM, and you have an account on lemm.ee, you can go to lemm.ee’s local copy of world->worldnews, find a thread started at 4PM, comment on it, and other lemm.ee users will see and upvote/downvote your comment.
When .world is back on at 7PM, lemm.ee will tell it: “Hey, Cold_Brew_Enema said [Thanks a lot for the gold kind stranger] and got 6 downvotes”, and .world will update the thread with your comment and downvotes for users of all instances to see.
This is my understanding of how it works, and I’m not familiar with the actual code, but it seems to be close to reality.
Excellent thank you!
There may be some things that don’t get synced if the instance holding the pending federation messages also goes down or restarts because AFAIK they are stored in memory, not in persistent storage.
I’m not sure it works like that but it makes sense that way.
You can log into non-world instances using world credentials?
No, you make an alt-account on a non-world instance and interact with world communities from there. The only issue is that you aren’t carrying over your subscriptions and blocks unless you use a special tool, about which I don’t know much.
I tried figuring out how to use the Lemmy API to subscribe to all my subscriptions from my kbin account a week or two ago
I remember getting stuck and giving up, so I think I’m going to do it semi-manually or something later on, unless some kind wizard blesses me with the name of such a tool
There is a script for it, I’ve been meaning to use it and create couple of alts but haven’t done yet.
Link - https://github.com/dbeley/awesome-lemmy#tools
Lasim works very well.
+1 for LASIM
No. It’s basically like signing in at another e-mail provider. Instead of asdfasdfasdf@yahoo.com you now have asdfasdfasdf@hotmail.com and can from then on e-mail the same contacts. Just with posts, threads and comments instead of e-mail of course.
Just make another account, you can usually even use the same username cuz there’s so many instances out there.
Unfortunately no. I don’t understand this well enough to know why accounts don’t sync, but that seems like it would be much better to me.
From the recent update shared, it seems like the ddos is coming from inside the hoose (ie the ddos attacker might be another lemmy instance). In other words the point of the ddos appear to be to cause people to move off of lemmy.world. so in a way it is working. A lot of people are telling people to move off lemmy.world.