• Tak@lemmy.ml
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    I know this will likely upset many Dems but:

    Dems have the Senate and the Presidency and are completely within their power to pack the Supreme Court and basically alter all of the terrible rulings the Supreme Court has made lately. The problem is that many Dems do not think it is worth packing the court for women, students, or the environment. You can’t just vote your way out of this as you would literally have to pack up and move to West Virginia to vote for a Senator who would be ultimately determining this.

    The system is ultimately flawed and just voting isn’t enough.

    Addition after some research:

    It looks like the Supreme Court is set in size by law and FDR had some of the same problems so it would be likely that this would take an act of congress and not just the Senate.

    Ultimately I feel this is certainly more difficult and makes my criticism of inaction now invalid as Dems do not hold enough of a majority to pass legislation; however I do still see them as responsible for inaction when majorities have been held throughout my lifetime.

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      A) They need 50 senators willing to entertain that notion. They only have 49. B) If there were one action that I think would be most likely to kick off Civil War 2, it would be packing the court.

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        That’s a very selective way of saying the Dems aren’t responsible because Dems wont support students, the environment, or women’s rights.

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        Civil War 2 is already happening, you must not be paying attention.

        It’s time to rip off the fucking band-aid and do something about it instead of letting the Proud Boys, the Three Percenters, and others run around terrorizing the country through wanton violence and death.

        All those “lone wolves” mysteriously all seem to be right-wing nutjobs, too…

        Just because it’s not a “hot” civil war yet doesn’t mean it’s not happening. One side isn’t fighting back, that’s for sure.

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      Democrats wouldn’t pack the courts

      That would be uncouth, you know, decorum is after all VERY important

      I also think the Parlementarian said no

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      Wouldn’t the Rs just do the same thing next time they have power? I get what you’re saying, but isn’t setting that precedent dangerous?

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        You’re saying that as if the Rs won’t do the same thing anyway without prior provocation. They’ve literally already broken the law to pack the court and the Democrats sat on their hands. They denied Obama picking a justice because it was “too close to an election” when the election was like six months away, but let Trump pick one when an election was already underway.

        Take off the fucking blinders, the Republicans already do these kind of things.

        They already set the precedent.

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        Republicans are channeling full fucking fascism and you think the only thing keeping them from packing the already packed republican court is because Dems haven’t done it first?

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        Yes- the court is an illegitimate anti-democratic institution and the long-term goal should be its abolishment.

        It is the final tool of the American oligarchs to prevent needed structural change in the country.

        Anything to highlight this is a good thing. Playing ping-pong with court expansion would be great to accelerate its necessary demise.

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        R’s don’t care about precedent. That’s why they actually get what they want. If Democrats actually got things done, they would consistently win elections and it would be be an issue anyway.

        It’s not going to happen anyway, though.

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        Yeah 3 million fewer votes too. Just vote your way out of an oligarchy guys! The ruling class totally will let you and wont gerrymander or make constitutional amendments to give term limits to only Presidents…

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      Of course it upsets the Dems knowing that they’re on the only side that has to govern well and we honest.

      But the alternative is for our side to be as much of a malignant tumor on the country as the other side is.

      I’ll take this version of the Democratic party, despite the fact the Republicans are trying to destroy the US and rebuild it in their own image.

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        Our side?

        I’m sorry, I don’t side with oligarchs.

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          I don’t side with oligarchs.

          Joe Manchin sure does. Nancy Pelosi sure does. Chuck Schumer sure does.

          Oopsie poopsie.

          EDIT: I triggered some Democrats by reminding them that the same hands that feed the Republicans feed the Democrats, apparently. Get over yourselves.

          In Nancy’s Own Fucking Words

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            Gotta make sure your investments are safe by being a member of congress.