Nope, my Microwave is older than i am and I’m not going to replace it until it breaks. It works perfectly, not even the light bulb burned through after almost 30 years of semi regular operation.
I don’t have the right to replace something that worked longer than me without it being broken.
No Faraday cage is perfect. They are all just attenuators. Likely the amount of microwave leakage allowed used to be greater when it was just safety in mind. Has the FCC updated in 30yr for microwave leakage to protect communications?
A microwave oven uses orders of magnitude more power than those, though. That said, the amount leaking through the Faraday cage is probably minimal. Still worth getting a modern microwave, they have better interfaces and faster cook times than the old ones.
A microwave that leaks 2.4 interference is what I’d consider definitely broken. Beyond broken. It can’t even do it’s primary job any more, just partially.
Just because the power unit still works, doesn’t meant the rest is done.
The cages never have been perfect and its absolutely no problem, its safe and doesn’t even cause interference with the W-LAN, just shitty 2.4 GHz connections.
Why would it be broken? Please explain in detail why a microwave that operates with up to 2400W (im only using the 1200W setting) is broken when it causes small interferences with 2.4 GHz connections? Cause im like 99% shure even Modern microwaves that operate at these Wattage do that. Faraday cages are never perfectly insulating they are regulated to only leak a certain amount of waves for safety. Otherwise you wouldn’t have a window in your microwave…
It’s broken because its leaking radiation and needs replacing. wattage means nothing I have radio equipment that I use for work that would knock most routers over with 0.5 watts if it’s not shielded right.
Fucking W-LAN Routers work with 100mW to 1W Transmitter Power, but thats not the point. The frequency is.
And yes you could technically interfere with most WLAN Routers with much less Wattage when you just put them on top of your equipment.
Point however is that the microwaves Faraday cage is intact and woks normally, there are different norms for microwaves and Radio Equipment…
And you say Radiation, while it is A radiation, its not ionizing like UV or anything further down that part of the spectrum (like nuclear radiation) Microwaves, like Infrared are harmless to humans by itself (unless you get cooked by them but I’ve never heard about that happening)
My Microwave works absolutely fine and most microwaves do let some microwaves out, they happen to be in the 2.4 GHz spectrum, a more or less Obsolete standard besides Bluetooth and cheap wireless transmitters.
So why would it be broken? Please explain. And its not Radio equipment.
Because its leaking radiation (I’m so glad you looked that word up) possibly because it’s so old. Now it won’t do you any harm but here’s the thing is. That radiation will at some point increase and begin to interfere with others Not just at 2.4ghz either you will get harmonics that could effect other services. Now to me looking at your post histroy you seem to me that type of dickhead that would willingly cause interference just for kicks.
That a good enough reason sweet tits or do you need it in braile?
I didn’t look up anything cause its not worth my time, i had physics class.
That radiation will at some point increase and begin to interfere with others Not just at 2.4ghz either you will get harmonics that could effect other services.
It hasn’t and it has always caused problems with 2.4 GHz connections. 5 GHz was never effected. So nothing changed, furthermore the walls of my house are thick enough to block Mobile network and stuff, so even if, i won’t effect people outside my house.
And you are right! I absolutely won’t by a new Microwave because you told me to.
But don’t worry, im already in possession of stuff that fucks up other peoples day and don’t use it, so i won’t use my Microwave for it either. It warms up Food not more, not less.
Btw, its a known problem for many people that microwave cause some noise in the 2.4 GHz frequency, thats nothing limited to My Microwave and has nothing to do with age, a friend of mine got a complete new kitchen and his microwave does the same.
Again, what do you think is going to happen, its nothing dangerous, just a very very minor inconvenience at best.
It’s not. There are two types of electromagnetic radiation: ionizing and non-ionizing.
Ionizing is the radiation that is bad for you because it also shoots little tiny particles at you that damage your DNA. Think X-rays
No-ionizing radiation doesn’t shoot tiny particles at you, so it’s mostly safe. Microwaves use this type, and it’s the exact same radiation your wifi router uses (which is why it can cause interference)
The worst a microwave oven can do to you is give you a burn since they work by heating up water molecules. But, that would require you to trip the door switch and putting a body part inside.
So, in conclusion, it’s basically impossible for a microwave to harm you with EMR unless you’re actively trying to make it harm you.
Also, as an added bonus but of knowledge, it’s completely safe to microwave metal, if it’s in the right shape. Some microwaves even have a metal rack for heating up casseroles and such (mine did at one point)
Everyone makes the argument of worrying about charging it, but the cable is still there… Like, when it’s low you plug it in and play as if it was wired. I play casually and plug mine in once every other week (HyperX).
For me it’s great because I hate the wire getting in the way but not everyone is bothered by that so to each their own.
I make the argument that its unnecessary to put a battery in a thing that will move within one square meter for the rest of its lifetime… I just don’t see the positive of a wireless anything on a pc that is wired. A laptop might be a different story, but a tower PC is literally just standing in at place and you can lay the cable nice so it’s not making problems.
I thought that too, but now I have a wireless mouse, keyboard, and ear buds and it’s amazing. You never have to worry about the slight tension from a cord, or what the cord will bump into. Complete freedom. The battery on my Logitech keyboard lasts about 3 months before it needs to be recharged.
Even though I use a desktop I still don’t think I could ever swap back to wired headphones. I frequently get up for a variety of reasons and keeping my music playing or continuing to chat with my friends is great. I briefly had to use a wired headset again and I nearly pulled the cable out a few times from getting up.
Wired best because i don’t need to charge it and there is no possibility of signal jamming by operating a microwave.
If operating a microwave interferes with any of your 2.4GHz networks, you need a new microwave.
But then how will he ever join the X-Men?
Nope, my Microwave is older than i am and I’m not going to replace it until it breaks. It works perfectly, not even the light bulb burned through after almost 30 years of semi regular operation.
I don’t have the right to replace something that worked longer than me without it being broken.
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No Faraday cage is perfect. They are all just attenuators. Likely the amount of microwave leakage allowed used to be greater when it was just safety in mind. Has the FCC updated in 30yr for microwave leakage to protect communications?
And? My fucking W-LAN Router emits the same waves, phones emit the same waves.
The little bit that gets out is absolutely harmless, would be very different if the full 1200W would get out but they don’t. I would have noticed.
A microwave oven uses orders of magnitude more power than those, though. That said, the amount leaking through the Faraday cage is probably minimal. Still worth getting a modern microwave, they have better interfaces and faster cook times than the old ones.
A microwave that leaks 2.4 interference is what I’d consider definitely broken. Beyond broken. It can’t even do it’s primary job any more, just partially.
Just because the power unit still works, doesn’t meant the rest is done.
This is the most idiotic bs I’ve read today.
The cages never have been perfect and its absolutely no problem, its safe and doesn’t even cause interference with the W-LAN, just shitty 2.4 GHz connections.
Why would it be broken? Please explain in detail why a microwave that operates with up to 2400W (im only using the 1200W setting) is broken when it causes small interferences with 2.4 GHz connections? Cause im like 99% shure even Modern microwaves that operate at these Wattage do that. Faraday cages are never perfectly insulating they are regulated to only leak a certain amount of waves for safety. Otherwise you wouldn’t have a window in your microwave…
The last time I had a microwave which caused interference was 30 years ago.
My microwave doesn’t interfere with my wifi.
It’s broken because its leaking radiation and needs replacing. wattage means nothing I have radio equipment that I use for work that would knock most routers over with 0.5 watts if it’s not shielded right.
Fucking W-LAN Routers work with 100mW to 1W Transmitter Power, but thats not the point. The frequency is.
And yes you could technically interfere with most WLAN Routers with much less Wattage when you just put them on top of your equipment.
Point however is that the microwaves Faraday cage is intact and woks normally, there are different norms for microwaves and Radio Equipment…
And you say Radiation, while it is A radiation, its not ionizing like UV or anything further down that part of the spectrum (like nuclear radiation) Microwaves, like Infrared are harmless to humans by itself (unless you get cooked by them but I’ve never heard about that happening)
My Microwave works absolutely fine and most microwaves do let some microwaves out, they happen to be in the 2.4 GHz spectrum, a more or less Obsolete standard besides Bluetooth and cheap wireless transmitters.
So why would it be broken? Please explain. And its not Radio equipment.
Because its leaking radiation (I’m so glad you looked that word up) possibly because it’s so old. Now it won’t do you any harm but here’s the thing is. That radiation will at some point increase and begin to interfere with others Not just at 2.4ghz either you will get harmonics that could effect other services. Now to me looking at your post histroy you seem to me that type of dickhead that would willingly cause interference just for kicks.
That a good enough reason sweet tits or do you need it in braile?
I didn’t look up anything cause its not worth my time, i had physics class.
It hasn’t and it has always caused problems with 2.4 GHz connections. 5 GHz was never effected. So nothing changed, furthermore the walls of my house are thick enough to block Mobile network and stuff, so even if, i won’t effect people outside my house.
And you are right! I absolutely won’t by a new Microwave because you told me to.
But don’t worry, im already in possession of stuff that fucks up other peoples day and don’t use it, so i won’t use my Microwave for it either. It warms up Food not more, not less.
Btw, its a known problem for many people that microwave cause some noise in the 2.4 GHz frequency, thats nothing limited to My Microwave and has nothing to do with age, a friend of mine got a complete new kitchen and his microwave does the same.
Again, what do you think is going to happen, its nothing dangerous, just a very very minor inconvenience at best.
Oh and yes i need it in brail.
If your microwave interferes with your wireless hardware, then it’s a health hazard. You should replace it ASAP.
Microwaves leaking radiation is absolutely not a health hazard.
Right…
It’s not. There are two types of electromagnetic radiation: ionizing and non-ionizing.
Ionizing is the radiation that is bad for you because it also shoots little tiny particles at you that damage your DNA. Think X-rays
No-ionizing radiation doesn’t shoot tiny particles at you, so it’s mostly safe. Microwaves use this type, and it’s the exact same radiation your wifi router uses (which is why it can cause interference)
The worst a microwave oven can do to you is give you a burn since they work by heating up water molecules. But, that would require you to trip the door switch and putting a body part inside.
So, in conclusion, it’s basically impossible for a microwave to harm you with EMR unless you’re actively trying to make it harm you.
Also, as an added bonus but of knowledge, it’s completely safe to microwave metal, if it’s in the right shape. Some microwaves even have a metal rack for heating up casseroles and such (mine did at one point)
Too much irrelevant text. Microwave ovens have enough power to burn you. Ionisation is not at play here.
It’s all relevant text. Like I said, you have to intentionally try to hurt yourself with a microwave. A bit of a shield leak won’t do anything.
Thats complete BS. More than anything else in the thread so far.
A health hazard? Absolutely not.
You were wrong about everything else, but surprisingly you’re right in this instance.
Why did you feel this comment was relevant?
Everyone makes the argument of worrying about charging it, but the cable is still there… Like, when it’s low you plug it in and play as if it was wired. I play casually and plug mine in once every other week (HyperX).
For me it’s great because I hate the wire getting in the way but not everyone is bothered by that so to each their own.
I make the argument that its unnecessary to put a battery in a thing that will move within one square meter for the rest of its lifetime… I just don’t see the positive of a wireless anything on a pc that is wired. A laptop might be a different story, but a tower PC is literally just standing in at place and you can lay the cable nice so it’s not making problems.
I guess for me I also move my tower a lot, several times a year between states, so wireless technology really makes that less painful.
Hm in this case…
I just can remotely access mine when i have to go somewhere else for a while.
Cool
Yeah its pretty convinient not having to truck around a tower pc.
I thought that too, but now I have a wireless mouse, keyboard, and ear buds and it’s amazing. You never have to worry about the slight tension from a cord, or what the cord will bump into. Complete freedom. The battery on my Logitech keyboard lasts about 3 months before it needs to be recharged.
Cables take a lot of space. And this space can be used for better purposes.
I clip my cables to the back of my monitor. Like USB cables for instance. Makes it out of sight normally and easy to access when I need it.
I have a lot of stuff at the back of the monitor, no place for cables.
Even though I use a desktop I still don’t think I could ever swap back to wired headphones. I frequently get up for a variety of reasons and keeping my music playing or continuing to chat with my friends is great. I briefly had to use a wired headset again and I nearly pulled the cable out a few times from getting up.
Some headphones don’t let you use them while charging
You can use them wired and then charge overnight.
My Sony headphones can’t be used while charging
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Ok, but why would you do that?
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JBL is expensive garbage…
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I had a headset from JBL, it broke super fast, the Cushion basically desintegrated after a year and the sound was mediocre.
I now have wired Studio Headphones with a extra mic and it was cheaper, better sound in and out and it lasted 3 years so far without any problems.
My experience with jbl is its hot garbage. You pay for the brand, not the quality.
Cableless is best because there’s no possibility of snagging a cable on something and you can move freely.