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      You may have already seen this, but there is a web app for Lemmy that looks and functions very similar to Apollo:

      https://wefwef.app/

      I’ve been trying it today, and it’s pretty good.

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        Holy shit, the developer has put some serious work in. I didn’t know web apps could be that good. There’s some insane attention to detail going on here

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        WTF! i been on lemmy for 2 weeks and this is my first time seeing this! Thanks

        e: This is friggin amazing!

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            I’m just curious; why is it a web app and not something you can download? The black bar in the bottom of the screen makes it feel weird, also the fact that upvote/downvote colors are reversed. Other than that, it soothens my withdrawals from Apollo, and I think I’ll be using it a fair amount alongside Memmy (which feels nice, it’s not a 100% carbon copy, but familiar)

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              Click the share button and save it your home screen it’ll save and operate as an app. It’s a web app just a new build option that makes it easier for something to be accessible in multiple ways.

        • It’s insane because the dev has only been working on this for three weeks. And it’s the best progressive web app I’ve ever seen. Almost feels native on my iPhone other than the lack of haptic feedback.

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        Damn… I hadn’t been paying attention and thought that was actually exclusively an iOS app when I’d seen it mentioned before… Looks interesting.

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        Wow! It really does feel very similar to Apollo. It will undoubtedly make the transition easier.

        Thanks!

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          Check out Memmy if you haven’t already. It’s the best IOS Lemmy app I’ve tried by far, and really reminds me of Apollo.

          This web app is really nice too though. It’s cool that we’re getting such good options.

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        +1

        Incredible, and the dev keeps updating it like twice a day.

        I’m also running a copy alongside my instance, thelemmy.club at app.thelemmy.club

        I never was really fond of web apps but this is great.

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        Wefwef feels like home. I was using Apollo for years and this feels very natural

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          I said this in another comment, but check out Memmy if you haven’t already! It’s the best I’ve used so far and totally reminds me of Apollo.

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      Didn’t the Apollo developer say that he was planning on porting his app to the fediverse?

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    Even as somebody who has never used, and will likely never need Apollo, I am really grateful for what he did. However unintentionally, I think he ripped the mask off how rotten the management structure was. It’s one thing to sell ads and collect hidden metadata. Pretty much all the apps do it. But the whole way Reddit treated him was beyond despicable.

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      Agreed. When I saw the Apollo thread, my first thought was ‘Nah, not even spez would do this’ but I choked on that very fast when I saw the e-mails, the audio recordings and everything. It was so blatant, so asinine, so horribly fucked up.

      I’ve never used the Apollo app, but millions of people did and in stead of thanking him for all his work, reddit just stabbed him in the back. Can’t believe there are people still taking reddit’s side on this, it’s crazy.

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        undefined> Can’t believe there are people still taking reddit’s side on this, it’s crazy.

        The AMA where Christian called his bluff was just magical.

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        because they think it’s just some dude who profitted off of reddit’s goodwill without giving anything back, and now poor ol’ reddit just wants to make a couple bucks to pay the bills.

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          Yeah, essentially taking spez’s word for it. Ignoring the fact that before April, Reddit used bend over backwards to help developers. Christian Selig even said nothing but great things about Reddit corporate before they dropped the bomb.

          Don’t tell me Reddit didn’t know people were writing third-party apps.

          But we ended up with garbage like this: https://youtu.be/JHDrK2E62SA

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        It blows my mind that people are actually defending Reddit on this.

        I seriously think Reddit is operating a sock puppet scheme to push a narrative. They’ve done it before, and they’ve bragged about it to the press.

        That is why there are so many baby accounts or long dormant accounts that suddenly came to life in the last couple weeks. This is a company which is coming off a month-long campaign of libeling and slandering its top third party developers, and then gish galloping all over the site after the recordings and emails were published.

        Then you have Huffman idolizing Musk, saying he wants to do to Reddit what Musk did to Twitter.

        Good third party apps cannot come to Lemmy and Kbin fast enough.

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      Lemmy doesn’t feel so… young. Feels like people here actually want to say something of substance other than a race to the bottom for karma

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          Neurodivergence makes a lot of sense.

          Back on reddit most of autism, adhd aspie memes itp subs felt way more friendly and generally better

          Take into account ND people generally being more … faithful to their moral rules (can’t browse reddit without guilt anymore) and we are probably mostly ND

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          Gotta wonder why 21% of the people refused to answer whether they were aware of the fediverse before signing up.

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          Could someone please explain to me that white/not white chart? What is white and not white?

          I swear I actually don’t know, and I am kind of embarrassed to ask but I just want to know. Is it strictly skin color, like is there an RGBs value that if a person averages a darker saturation then they are not white, and above that bar they are white? Or is it an aggregate of ethnicities that fall into the category of “white”?

          Seriously if anyone could help me understand here. I got into an argument with someone not long ago because I said white is not a race, and her friends were backing her up as well.

          I just wanna understand.

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            I think usually ethnicity is a better way of identifying as that takes into account historical, cultural and ancestual similatities within people, rather than race which is mainly concerned with skin colour and physical differences. Race is seeminly a more outdated concept.

            In this scenario I would assume White refers to ‘of european / american decent’.

            Though someone correct me if I’m off the mark there!

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            You’re right. White is not a race. Neither is black, brown or purple. People have different levels of melanin in their skin, and that’s it. People come from different cultures, and have different norms / frames of reference. That’s where diversity of opinion comes from.

            To boil that down to a binary categorisation based on literal skin colour is reductionist to say the least. Some might be less generous.

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            It is difficult and not that black and white (pun not intended). I would personally say that for external factors it is skin color. Like how other people perceive you. That’s why the term ‘white-passing’ exists. But for internal factors it is different. Like, for example, I am a quarter black. But just like a lot of people who are a quarter black or anything, I look white. So to other people I am white because they can only see skin color, but I know that’s not the whole truth because I know my family history. But I am still given privileges in society purely based on the fact that I look white that people with darker skin don’t get. I have fully black friend and when we were in high school (didn’t know each other back then yet) we both skipped school so much that we got in trouble with attendance laws in our country. We did the exact same thing, and got community service, but I, as a ‘white’ girl, got to spend it helping out a library, while he, a black young man, had to pick trash at the side of the road.

            It is to some extent also influenced by ethnicity, more so in the past than now, like how Italians and the Irish weren’t considered white when they immigrated to America by the people of English descent. But because of the history of colonialism and slavery by majority white countries over majority non-white countries, it has almost exclusively connotations to skin color now.

            Of course, ‘race’, in the biological sense, doesn’t actually exist in humans. We’re all the same race, homo sapiens. But we still use the word race today as a shorthand because historically, when people didn’t have as much knowledge about biology as we do now, people did actually think the different skin colors were different human races. So, biologically, neither white nor black nor Latino nor Asian nor whatever is an actual race, but socially, societally speaking, it is a useful shorthand for skin color because of difference in treatment, privilege, education, income, etc etc that comes with it from centuries of oppression, colonialism, slavery, exploitation and (‘scientific’) racism.

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      I’m on kbin. It’s just… lightweight reddit basically. I dig it. The one thing we’re all going to lose is the content from 15 years of reddit though. Can’t just magically recreate or replace that in any short time frame.

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        It’s just… lightweight reddit basically. I dig it.

        One could say you… digg it.

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        That content isn’t active discussions anymore, just archive to be searched. It’ll still be there. Just make sure you make new content in the fediverse.

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        conversations over 2 weeks on reddit are entirely dead, though. People think you’re a lunatic for commenting on something over 5 days old, and while older posts are interesting, it’s not the way sites like this are used. Maybe for searches for information, but not conversation.

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        Absolutely, people act like swapping over is no biggie, but there were all kinds of posts that led to obscure answers and provided such simple and pertinent information. Don’t know something, try a google then ask on reddit and someone will be either super helpful or condescending. It’s going to take a LOOOOOOOONG time for people to really swap if ever.

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          You know, there’s a huge difference between using reddit to find answers/solutions and actually adding content yourself. I’ve swapped in that I’m not posting/commenting on reddit anymore.

          I can imagine I will be directed to reddit a lot when in search of specific information, but I’m blocking ads so they won’t get money from that and basically I’ll just be ‘taking’ from them, adding nothing of value really.

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      It very much feels like early Reddit, i do hope for more content but honestly don’t really want it to grow as much as Reddit did and thus become like it

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      I had stopped participating in a lot of subreddits I had been really active in because they just became so large there felt like no point.

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      Agreed. It’s a breath of fresh air from the Reddit mileu, which has seemed to have grown so stale, predictable, and hostile over the years.

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    I just joined Lemmy today after uninstalling Reddit Is Fun. It was absolutely surreal just how much habit was in pulling out my phone and pressing the space where RIF used to be. Decided I’m kind of mostly done with Reddit other than quick information look ups on the website.

    So here I am! First post! The only constant in life is change. Hello everyone, I hope we all get along! :)

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    Over a decade lurking on reddit; never posted. Just made a lemmy account. I don’t need lemmy to be “the next big thing”… just need it to not be overrun by bots and astroturfing. Hopefully some of the smaller subs I visit move over.

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      Yeah, my least favourite paart about all of this is that I had to abandon most of the smaller subreddits I was active in.

      Oh well, they’ll reform here, I bet

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      There’s already enough content here that I don’t run out of things to read ever. That’s all I need.

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    I think a lot of moderators are just going to back down and return to business-as-usual from tomorrow. Reddit will suffer as a business but this isn’t going to downright kill the site. Unlike say… Tumblr or OnlyFans, Reddit has a far more diverse clientele and many of them couldn’t give a shit about third-party apps.

    These half-arsed protests staged after the 14th June have told me that most of Reddit’s mods are fucking cowards who are more afraid of losing their status as internet janitors than all the third-party apps.

    Reddit’s moderators could have easily brought the site to its knees if they just collectively stopped enforcing rules (including site-wide ones), removed Automoderator, unbanned everybody, then told the community to just go nuts.

    The mods of /r/interestingasfuck had the right idea by encouraging users to post NSFW content, since this would have chased away advertisers in droves.

    I mean the whole “sexy pics of John Oliver” protest that /r/pics had isn’t going to chase away advertisers and was something that Spez could easily ignore, but having your content displayed alongside a flood of explicit pornographic images definitely will.

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    I hope Reddit fully dies off- that site is a cesspool and deserves to meet a fate similar to tumblr & myspace.

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      Tumblr? Tf u mean? It’s still doing pretty well, MySpace lost all content posted before 2016 and is now a useless empty husk. Tumblr is just smaller, but still active. This comparison makes no sense.

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        Yeah. Hell, a bunch of people just joined tumblr from reddit. There’s a whole reddit refugee tag that was trending for a minute there.

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        I hope Reddit fully dies off- that site is a cesspool and deserves to meet a fate similar to tumblr Digg & myspace.

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        Eh, its still massively less popular than it used to be before they banned porn, if something similar happens to Reddit, with it becoming a ghosttown in parts of it but still fairly active on larger communities- I’d still consider that a win against them.

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        That would be an interesting metric to have in an app. Kilometers/Miles scrolled. Like exercise tracking for your thumb.

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      it was my first approach to reddit😭…

      I had fun over there but nothing last forever

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          Really? Well, now I’m a bit dissappointed XD

          But it’s not a problem if he won’t use it, I hope someone makes a fork to support Lemmy then.

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      One of the best apps for sure! If you want to keep using Infinity, you can build the app with your private API-key following this guide. Also there’s a fork of Infinity which supposedly makes it compatible with Lemmy, but I haven’t tried that one yet.

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      Well, he is going to try to make a subscription Infinity.

      But I’ve already moved on to RedReader because the dev is fully on my wavelength. He got the accessibility exception and continues to openly trash Reddit in a very gentlemanly, polite way. His goal now is to diversify the app to non-Reddit sites before Reddit doesn’t need him as a PR shield. Hopefully he’s able to add Lemmy and kbin support soon.

      The RedReader app’s use of menus is… slightly different than apps I have used in the past but it has sort of grown on me. It has a, “yeah I can see why Stephan Hawking would have used this sort of thing” vibe, but at the same time it’s actually not tedious or difficult to use once you get the hang of it.

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    I’m a Relay user which is one of the few apps that are going to stick around, but I still opted out of Reddit anyway. As a mod, spez arrogance offends me.

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      I was a former Relay user too. I’ve been on Lemmy for about 2 weeks now. It’s growing and changing by the day. It’s really fascinating. I started using Liftoff a couple of days ago and it’s a great app! Still testing a few others but Liftoff is my favorite so far.

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    RIF was part of my life for a decade. It’s crazy how emotional this experience has been. It feels like losing a home, a community, everything because some fuckface won’t find a compromise.

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      I lost RARBG and then Reddit both in one month. Both I would go to daily.

      I felt, and still do feel a sense of hollowness that their familiarity had filled.

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      I do feel like that about Apollo. It’s crazy how different the Fediverse feels via a UI that copies Apollo pretty closely, I feel like I just dropped into a gaggle of tiny subs. Sure most features are missing, but the progress is so fast.

      I still am pretty bummed about losing the old site. I’ve spent so long there. But I was hopping sites before and it’s now wrong to start doing that again. Complacency is how we get apps like Instagram, which are more ads than pictures of friends (which is all I want out of that platform)

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      I’ve been loving liftoff! Not sure if I’m ever gonna change or try another lemmy app tbh.

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        I’ll love what they’re building, but next to Memmy, Wefwef, Mlem, etc, Lift Off’s UI and UX needs the most work. I hope they can get a user experience person to start contributing.