WYSK: There funded by dark money PACS, but some good reporting has brought out these names: David Koch, Peter Thiel, Reid Hoffman, Mark Cuban, Harlan Crow, and Michael Bloomberg. Some of there members are most famous for stopping big bills. Joe Leiberman, for example, single handedly stopped the single payer portion of the ACA. Senators Joe Manchin and Kyrsen Simena kept the John Lewis voting rights act from passing, and famously kept the senate from repealing the filibuster.

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      and yet the Democrats are still a right wing party.

      Just because we let Republicans pull the Overton Window so far to the right it’s damn near broken doesn’t change the fact that Dems are still right wing.

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        Right and left wing are always relative, not absolute. The Democrats might be right wing if transplanted with no changes to another country, but that doesn’t matter. They are left win in comparison to the only other party that matters, so they are left wing.

        It’s always relative.

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          That’s…not how that works at all. They’re to the left of Republicans but that’s akin to saying that Mt Everest’s distance from sea level ain’t shit compared to the moon.

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            That’s exactly how it works.

            Left and Right are always relative positions, not absolute one. And they are relative not only to each other, but to the polics of the country as a whole.

            Mount Everest’s high IS absolute, so it’s not a valid comparison.

            Left and Right are, like what they are named for, merely directions. They mean nothing without a point to compare them too.

            Right is typical the traditional position, orginally with the king, and left is the reform/change position.

            Which is definitely true of right and left in the US.

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      We do a lot of weird word play in the US. Liberal, for example, has come to mean something akin to left wing. In the rest of the world liberal would idealogically be a much closer fit with something like a center right party. Or it would have elements of both (personal freedoms combined with limited government).