Yeah but we’re not talking about Ticketmaster fees, we’re talking about ticket prices. If you exclude the fees and just talk about the ticket price itself, they were $79 each, which further invalidates this “infographic” if you can even call it that.
Ticketmaster sucks fucking ass, no debate, but that’s not the point here.
And also, saying any artist “chose” to list on Ticketmaster is kind of disingenuous, almost every large stadium and venue (in the US at least) has a contractual requirement to only sell through Ticketmaster, which, again, is proof that Ticketmaster sucks fucking ass, but isn’t really any artist’s fault. It’s the Ticketmaster monopoly.
Other than understating the old ticket prices, non of the reality of Ticketmaster invalidates the point that capitalism has made concerts much more expensive.
No, the Elvis cocert didnt include $60 in fee on that ticket.
The problem is the insinuation made by the infographic is that artists are to blame for ticket prices.
This would be a much more powerful (and factually accurate) infographic if it focused on fees and how Ticketmaster is largely to blame for the balloon in costs for event tickets over the last few decades.
But it doesn’t say that, at all.
Also, the fees per ticket for Taylor Swift were $22. Not cheap by any means, and a total rip off, again, at the fault of Ticketmaster. But let’s not throw around made up numbers if we’re trying to be factual.
I never thought the infographic was insinuating it was the artists fault.
Its the record companies and promotion companies and everyone else who uses capital to lay claim to any resources they can and then use that control to leverage greater and greater profits at the cost of everyone else.
I find your arguments sound and well-sourced, and I appreciate you sharing your experience.
Utterly unsure of where the controversy is, but those downdoots are lookin mighty. I think it’s important for communists to do self-reflection like this. We have the truth on our side, and should be willing to criticize ourselves for accidentally spreading dis/misinformation. I’ve had to do it. I apologized and rectified my mistake to the people I misinformed, even though I agreed with the ideals what I shared presented. (In this case, the thing I shared was a completely believable mass shooter’s alleged Facebook post about hating Asian women, right before he murdered them. The post was faked. It presented the shooter as a vile racist, which he most certainly was – he killed 8 people, 6 of them being Asian women – so why fucking fake it?
I’d wager to create traps for us to fall into, so we can be discredited and ignored. But I’m pretty paranoid.
The point is still the same when the true numbers are shown, and it still hits hard enough. There is absolutely no need to lie or exaggerate. Why did the creator of this graph?
Yeah but we’re not talking about Ticketmaster fees, we’re talking about ticket prices. If you exclude the fees and just talk about the ticket price itself, they were $79 each, which further invalidates this “infographic” if you can even call it that.
Ticketmaster sucks fucking ass, no debate, but that’s not the point here.
And also, saying any artist “chose” to list on Ticketmaster is kind of disingenuous, almost every large stadium and venue (in the US at least) has a contractual requirement to only sell through Ticketmaster, which, again, is proof that Ticketmaster sucks fucking ass, but isn’t really any artist’s fault. It’s the Ticketmaster monopoly.
Other than understating the old ticket prices, non of the reality of Ticketmaster invalidates the point that capitalism has made concerts much more expensive.
No, the Elvis cocert didnt include $60 in fee on that ticket.
The problem is the insinuation made by the infographic is that artists are to blame for ticket prices.
This would be a much more powerful (and factually accurate) infographic if it focused on fees and how Ticketmaster is largely to blame for the balloon in costs for event tickets over the last few decades.
But it doesn’t say that, at all.
Also, the fees per ticket for Taylor Swift were $22. Not cheap by any means, and a total rip off, again, at the fault of Ticketmaster. But let’s not throw around made up numbers if we’re trying to be factual.
I never thought the infographic was insinuating it was the artists fault.
Its the record companies and promotion companies and everyone else who uses capital to lay claim to any resources they can and then use that control to leverage greater and greater profits at the cost of everyone else.
In other words, capitalism.
I find your arguments sound and well-sourced, and I appreciate you sharing your experience.
Utterly unsure of where the controversy is, but those downdoots are lookin mighty. I think it’s important for communists to do self-reflection like this. We have the truth on our side, and should be willing to criticize ourselves for accidentally spreading dis/misinformation. I’ve had to do it. I apologized and rectified my mistake to the people I misinformed, even though I agreed with the ideals what I shared presented. (In this case, the thing I shared was a completely believable mass shooter’s alleged Facebook post about hating Asian women, right before he murdered them. The post was faked. It presented the shooter as a vile racist, which he most certainly was – he killed 8 people, 6 of them being Asian women – so why fucking fake it?
I’d wager to create traps for us to fall into, so we can be discredited and ignored. But I’m pretty paranoid.
The point is still the same when the true numbers are shown, and it still hits hard enough. There is absolutely no need to lie or exaggerate. Why did the creator of this graph?