• Blackbeard@lemmy.world
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    Republicans want open borders so they can campaign on razor wire and racism. If the problem ever were to be “fixed”, they’d have nothing left to bitch about. They don’t actually want the immigration crisis solved, just like they didn’t actually want Roe overturned. They just wanted to be able to scream about it like children so they could piss off low information voters.

    Trump is just helping pull back the veil on the charade.

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      It’s a perfect example of the dog catching the car. They likely never expected to be successful with roe and had no idea what to do when they won. This is also likely to be their downfall. I’m not sure they thought through just how many younger voters would be riled up and extremely pissed off about it.

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      Exactly. They want immigrants to build our houses but they want to tell white people the immigrants are the problem, for votes and power.

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        And also do jobs like working chicken farms and dangerous jobs that you would have to pay US citizens more money to do (and also pay the taxes on them). The idea of immigrants being “illegal” came about as a way to replace slave labor. People who know they will be deported don’t make complaints to OSHA, so you can treat them poorly, and just replace them like you would any other expendable item should your place of employment lead to them becoming ill, dismembered, or even deceased.

        EDIT - This article explains this better than me.

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      The old guard doesn’t want those things, but the problem is that if you rant about problems you don’t want to solve because they’re politically useful, eventually people will start to believe you. The McConnells want to use the threat of immigrants to get elected and pass Conservative bills; the Marj Greenes want to “solve” it, preferably finally.

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      That’s what we said about Roe as well. They will always find some new way to manufacture outrage even after they get their way.

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    A quandary? Because of citizen Donald Trump? He’s not the president, anymore.

    If you’re in a “quandary,” it’s because you are choosing to be afraid of the monster you made. Fucking idiot cowards.

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      I mean, they do get the title for life…

      Like have you ever heard someone say Mr Obama? Or Mr Bush?

      It’s either just last name or president instead of Mr/Mrs

      It’s fucked up trump was president, but we can’t just ignore it because it sucked.

      We need to own up to our shitty past and use it as motivation to be even better in the future. And more importantly, not to stop caring later. Shit like this is never permanently fixed, it requires constant vigilance and political action or it’ll creep back before we know it.

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        the guy shit all over the office of president, literally wants to become dictator and you want to give the 91 count indicted criminal some respect?

        are you ok?

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          I don’t, I don’t even capitalize his name. Let alone put president or even Mr in front of it.

          I’m just saying:

          It’s a stupid thing to complain about

          It’s like saying Jeffery Dahmer was an asshole because he never used napkins and burped while eating someone.

          Yeah, dude was a giant asshole, but it wasn’t because of his table manners.

          Don’t let conservatives drag you into a dumb argument that doesn’t matter, stick to any of the shit that does matter from the incomprehensibly huge pile of his dumb and dangerous behavior.

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        Like have you ever heard someone say Mr Obama? Or Mr Bush?

        Actually, yes. Just like you can default to calling someone Colonel after they’ve retired, you can likewise call a former president “President X.” But that former title doesn’t imbue them with extra rights, respect, or powers. Typically, though, I’ve heard people say “Former President X.” It’s only Republicans that incorrectly refer to him as “President.”

        We should reckon with our past, but that doesn’t mean we need to normalize titles of respect where they’re underserved, and Trump doesn’t deserve any current special privilege just because he was president in the past. He doesn’t actually control the Republican party by way of right—they’re simply too spineless to stand up to him.

        And that’s the problem. They hold the actual power, but they behave like he’s the one in charge.

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    If the Republicans fix problems with immigration, they would lose their political platform.

    Trump is running for dictator and to stay out of jail. He doesn’t care about helping immigrants.

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    ROMNEY: “ It was hard for me to see what Leader McConnell was suggesting. He seem to be of two minds in the conversation. But reading the reports this morning, and the fact that he hasn’t corrected them suggests that he is inclined to listen to what former President Trump wants.”

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    You know what? Fuck it. Let’s just fucking do it. Kick out all the immigrants, non-whites, and non-christians, and then stop trading with any non-white or “woke” countries. Sure, I’ll be kicked out of country, but I’ll binge-watch the the shit out of the reality tv series about the country that kicked itself back into colonial times just to try growing tobacco and cotton in asphalt.

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        Hence the other filters of non-white and non-Christian. I’m a third generation Polish-American and I’m Jewish, so I’m double-gone. My Indian-American Hindu wife gets kicked out for aaaallllllllllll the reasons. But she loves trash tv and would force me to watch the remaining Americans constantly fail while I cook up some chilaquiles for us.

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          I just meant that there’s a group of people who would consider anyone whose family wasn’t already here before 1492 to be unwelcome immigrants.

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            OHHHHHHHH!!! Yes! Sorry, I’m slow today.

            I frequently like to visit national parks and imagine what it would be like to visit the United States had people who look like me not destroyed it. I’m so curious what a society and government would have looked like 300 years later or even how many countries would be here.

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Former President Donald Trump’s push to kill a bipartisan immigration deal may now derail a major national security package, forcing Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell to suggest a new course of action and endangering aid to Ukraine and Israel in the process.

    According to a GOP source familiar with the matter, McConnell told Republicans at a private Wednesday meeting that they are in a “quandary,” given that bipartisan talks over immigration have created intraparty feuding and may have closed off a path to getting a massive package approved this Congress.

    The fresh doubts from the Senate GOP leader – one of the leading proponents of more aid to Ukraine – suggest Congress may have to punt on the issues altogether or break up the package into individual pieces, though no decisions have been made.

    The new doubts come as House Republicans – with the encouragement of Trump, who is railing on immigration as a top election issue – are revolting over the bipartisan talks, even before they’ve concluded.

    The candid assessment, reported earlier by Punchbowl News, underscores the growing fears that Congress won’t be able to approve aid to Ukraine at a critical moment in its war against Russia – or pass any legislation to clamp down on the surge of migrants at the southern border.

    Cramer told reporters that Risch, the top Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, actually played a clip of the late Sen. John McCain talking about Russian President Vladimir Putin after the invasion of Crimea.


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