“If you have a problem, talk to your manager” shows they don’t understand unions. In a manager-employee interaction the employee has a worse bargaining position every time. To balance the power of management you need a union.
Yeah also, when you’re in a union you can talk to your manager and have your rep on the side as referee. Also sometimes union reps are there to be the second sane person in a conversation, often that’s because the manager is a lunatic, but other times it’s to translate a screamed string of profanity into actual actionable complaints for the manager.
I think they do understand, and that is the point. They want that power imbalance even while being truthful about wanting to provide a good working environment. I would also suggest that you dont need a union to balance the power of management, rather you need the collective power of the majority, in this time and age we call that a Union but the formality is not required.
So have I. But I’m in my current job specifically because my last team got taken over by abusive managers. I didn’t feel I could talk to anyone in my new chain of command. It also constituted a bullshit office move. I was gone for a promotion in 3 months.
“If you have a problem, talk to your manager” shows they don’t understand unions. In a manager-employee interaction the employee has a worse bargaining position every time. To balance the power of management you need a union.
Yeah also, when you’re in a union you can talk to your manager and have your rep on the side as referee. Also sometimes union reps are there to be the second sane person in a conversation, often that’s because the manager is a lunatic, but other times it’s to translate a screamed string of profanity into actual actionable complaints for the manager.
I think they do understand, and that is the point. They want that power imbalance even while being truthful about wanting to provide a good working environment. I would also suggest that you dont need a union to balance the power of management, rather you need the collective power of the majority, in this time and age we call that a Union but the formality is not required.
the majority can try to hold on but without the protections a formal union affords, they’ll be torn to pieces.
That is situational, I have had more managers that I feel comfortable going to whenever I had a problem then I have had the other way around.
So have I. But I’m in my current job specifically because my last team got taken over by abusive managers. I didn’t feel I could talk to anyone in my new chain of command. It also constituted a bullshit office move. I was gone for a promotion in 3 months.