Donald Trump will participate in the first-ever trilateral meeting between the leaders of the U.S., China and Russia on the sidelines at the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) Summit in China next week, senior U.S. officials told reporters Friday evening.
Trump is expected to discuss Iran with Chinese President Xi Jinping and Russian President Vladimir Putin, the officials said, but he does not intend to discuss Russia’s war with Ukraine during the trilateral meeting.
Denuclearization will be the focus of the long-awaited trilateral meeting, though officials do not anticipate the leaders reaching any concrete agreement and are characterizing this meeting as an initial conversation broaching the subject.
DIE!!!you complete disease of a human
Topic: how shall we distribute the world among us?
“Why does our ‘democratic’ president choose to spend so much time in meetings with fascist dictators?”
👆 A thought that will never enter the minds of conservatives
How else is he going to get new instructions from his masters?
Puddingbrain needs his marching orders spelled out in crayon.
They all believe they own their own respective hemispheres and can be dictators of their “own backyard.” It is why there was so much US propoganda about “this is our hemisphere” and why trump cares so little about NATO. He wants to be a dictator just like the other two. He didn’t care or think about how the US gave up so much soft power and influence that we had by being partners with the western world, he just wants to feel like he is in charge. Western hedgomony and cheap accessible world trade are being gutted, and regional conflicts are going to increase with global resource scarcity.
The worst of the worst of the boomer generation raping the planet one more time
He seems to really like spending time with those two.
He likes to think of himself as equal to them, after decades of looking up to them.
But he is no dictator and apparently still subject to votes. Real and impostor dictators know that alike, and thus he will be subjected to the other two.
I’m genuinely curious if people think Xi is in the same ballpark of corruption and garbage as Putin and Trump. Like, do average western people think that Xi would even qualify for the Piece of Shit Olympics? Trump and Putin are actively engaging in illegal wars of aggression while the infrastructure and quality of life of the countries they rule crumble. I just feel like their taking home Gold and Silver medals and Xi is barely getting past the qualifications.
Not being as evil as Putin or Trump is the lowest bar imaginable. China does not need to work hard to be the lesser evil, and yet they still prolong civil wars for selfish gain, even when the consequences affect their own citizens. They still let their companies do whatever they want so long as it helps the state. They still violate the sovereignty of most of their neighbors, just as they’ve historically done for thousands years. They might not be as interested in expansionary ethnic cleansing in quite the same way as America or Russia, but that’s simply because they prefer influence over occupation. They aren’t better out of benevolence, but because they have a different imperial strategy.
yet they still prolong civil wars for selfish gain
Would be interested in what specific conflicts you’re referring to. I am definitely critical of China for engaging in trade with essentially zero care for the conditions of the state they are trading with. Israel being the obvious criticism. Are those types of trade relations with countries what you’re referring to? I agree if that’s what you mean.
They still let their companies do whatever
This is in conflict to the normal complaints of China “disappearing” people. So, are you saying they don’t do that? Because the famous cases of this are from businessmen that start speaking against the party, or doing actual social crimes.
I have criticism of China’s free speech restrictions on individual citizens. But to say that China “let’s companies do whatever they want” is in complete contradiction to the countless “violations of freedom” that the Western media speaks about. Because those are entirely made up of the capitalist of China stepping out of line with the party; or engaging in social murder like crimes.
They aren’t better out of benevolence, but because they have a different imperial strategy.
I hear the language of the left here being used in a non material way. If you’re someone that has the word “imperial strategy” in your vocabulary it shocks me to hear someone describe a system based on idealism as the core. “The purpose of a system is what it does.” Its odd to conclude with a point of criticism that is rooted in idealism. It is rooted in the western idea that China is just “waiting for its moment of attack” with no material reason to conclude that.
If China wanted to start being aggressive and start it’s Imperialist expansion there was no better time than the Iran invasion. You think America was ready to defend Taiwan when it was taking interceptors out of Korea to send them to Israel? Yet China decided to “wait” and instead reduce its purchases of oil to assist it’s trade partners in East Asia.
At a certain point this “waiting for the right moment” Imperialist China narrative needs to die. They have proven their intentions are based entirely on offering a less parasitic form of trade than the US offers. One that is entirely without the use of military conflict.
I’m not sure how you can call that imperial strategy in a world where US Imperialism still exists. If the US was gone. Sure, it would be insane to engage in trade relations with states like Israel. But, you’re criticism is in a vacuum and not in the context of the cold war being waged against China by the west.
His imperial and antidemocratic features manifest a bit differently, and he has no need for that open corruption, because he is indistinguishable from the party and therefore from the state. Fine. He also has much more grounded ideological background than Trump, as the other commenter pointed out. But then, Putin has that one too. As did Mussolini. This does not make anyone a good human.
After all that he’s still an imperial and antidemocratic autocrat. I’m not very picky with my words. Sorry if the term dictator offended you.
Which saved them from israeli infiltration and olgarchopoly
Are you trying to find a little light in the darkness of a system that will incarcerate and “reeducate” you as soon as you speak out against its leader, by using the old rhetorical devices whataboutism, and antisemitism?
It’s impressive you managed to completely dismantle any good faith reading of your original reply with this comment. Usually it takes you MAGA freaks a few more replies to get there.
Your pattern recognition is broken. I cannot understand how you got it the point of accusing me to be a MAGA freak. After this comment of all things.
Insecure men make for terrible leaders
Yes. Unironically yes. They believe China is a dictatorship that reveres Xi for no reason other than he’s a ‘brutal’ dictator that ‘took charge by force.’
Westerners unironically have no concept of how Chinese democracy works, and cannot name a single part of the Chinese government. Most people don’t even realize Xi is more educated than all US presidents and most US elected representatives, and has written more than a half dozen books explaining every bit of the current party philosophy, including all of China’s failures and his own contemporary failures and how the party has improved.
Most people don’t even realize Xi is more educated than all US presidents and most US elected representatives, and has written more than a half dozen books explaining every bit of the current party philosophy, including all of China’s failures and his own contemporary failures and how the party has improved.
Sounds like Woodrow Wilson to me. Funny thing about him is that all his education and intellect did not make the liberal world order he envisioned any better, nor did it make the racism he promoted justified. It’s not like the League of Nations did anything for world peace, and I doubt you want to defend the rigid nation-state framework and neoliberal fiscal policies of the UN.
On top of that, I can’t take the “philosophy” of politicians seriously; it coming from a head of state makes it propaganda to justify their own authority. Philosophy works best as a conversation, an open dialectic where one side of it doesn’t have the absolute authority of a superpower backing them up. It just comes across more like cult shit from a technocratic state capitalist.
I… don’t understand how you’re arguing against the concept of education and doctoral theses along with peer-reviewed research and getting upvotes, but you do you I guess.
There are plenty of highly educated fools and plenty of bunk research that makes it past peer review. The authority of being published means little to me, as I know a thing or two about research and academia. I am even more skeptical because it clearly serves to build a mythology around a leader.
At the end of the day, not even the fact that many other party members have academic backgrounds changes much. Technocracy isn’t the worst, but it doesn’t suddenly make the leaders right or the system just. Thinking intellectualism has such magical properties only does its very principles a disservice.
We will never agree on anything, at any point, and likely have very basic disagreements about the concept of reality itself, so I’m going to exit from this conversation. Someone who does not believe in using science to inform decisions cannot ever be debated with or convinced about anything at all, and honestly my time is worth more than trying to get you to agree that governing based on observed data is something that should happen.
It does now make sense why you believe anti-Chinese propaganda, and propaganda in general. Good luck with your horse dewormer and carnivore diet and the rapture.
Real and impostor dictators know that alike, and thus he will be subjected to the other two
Huh?
I guess this is where they engineer the next crisis that makes them all richer.
Donald Trump is a total loser, USA is now dancing to the tune of China. Trump behaves like China already is the #1 global power.
Trump has no honor or integrity, which is probably why he can’t see how this is a bad look for USA.USA has become the laughing stock of the world, failing in every way possible. Failing against Russia, failing the Iran war, failing with tariffs, failing with their economy, losing allies and losing their global political power.
If the goal of Trump is to destroy USA, he couldn’t be doing a better job.
Trump’s goal is whatever benefits Trump at the time in his opinion. That’s it. The path of destruction he leaves is just his niche of specialty.
True, but I could also have stated it as Trump voters, if their goal is to destroy USA, they couldn’t have done a better job than to give Trump Presidential power, and GOP a majority in both houses, so he can perform the destruction unhindered.
Ultimately the blame lies with the voters. With everybody that didn’t vote accepting this outcome, and thereby being complicit.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but China is the number one superpower.
Yes you are right at least partly as a minimum. Without allies USA is the underdog in many ways now. It was very clearly demonstrated by China when Trump tried to engage in a trade war with China, that China is already the stronger more resilient economic power, in part because they control more natural resources than USA does. And with the Iran war Trump has manged to demonstrate the serious limitations of the American military.
Huuumm yeah! And this is… bad?
Yes it is, because neither USA or Europe are big or strong enough to counter China, so instead of a balance of power, it is very likely that China will take over the dominant position of USA. To balance China we need USA to be an ally of the free world.
Why is China becoming the economic center of the world bad? That’s the baseline for humanity. China has always been the moat powerful country in the world, except for like 200 years.
Being the economic center of the world is not bad in itself, at least not in my opinion. China getting out of being a poor country is actually good, improving life conditions for 1.3 billion people as absolutely stellar.
But unfortunately we have seen China becoming more aggressive as they have become more powerful. It was not healthy that USA was unchecked for many years, and it will not be healthy if China becomes unchecked either. There needs to be balance.
A) China is the free world.
B) You are assuming China wants to rule the world, instead of essentially ensuring Chinese stability during the transition into socialism during the current 15 year plan.
Oh please, we’ve seen China exert all kinds of political pressure on neighboring countries, and even EU countries. To control aspects that are none of their business. Like what books about China should be allowed in European libraries.
If you think China is better than USA, you are deluding yourself.China hasn’t been in a war, ever. Like the modern Chinese state. They have never invaded a country. That by itself is better than the US…
They are technically currently at war with India. Over Indian territory they bought illegally from UK when India was a UK colony.
Apart from that they have also been aiding in wars like Vietnam and Korea.
Granted China may not be as much a warmonger as USA, but that is in part because USA was the global leader by far for ½ a century. China was not in a similar position to wage war. Hopefully they will be more peaceful than USA.They have a border dispute with India. The closest to violence it got was a fistfight.
They helped Korea defend against the US.
Vietnam is a true blunder, but Vietnam was allying with the US against France and China.
And China is much more powerful and relevant than France, the UK, Germany etc. and that didnt stop them from waging war in the middle east and africa…
I mean from the 90s onwards. When Europe was much less relevant and powerful than china is now or has been for the past 10 years.
Got actual evidence of that?
https://phayul.com/2020/01/norwegian-library-snubs-demand-by-chinese-delegation-to-remove-book/
Norwegian Library snubs demand by Chinese delegation to remove book
Oh, so it’s a conspiracy theory, got it.
The movement is banned in China since 1999 and its practitioners strongly persecuted and in many cases, their organs harvested through state sanctioned rackets according to rights groups.
There is no scenario where China is better off with Trump. The destabilizing of the Middle East is hurting everyone. Not to mention his ridiculous tarrifs. Russia wants him because the Iran war has forced some people to remove their sanctions on Russian oil and is helping to fund their war.
Both countries want trump in power because he is making america weaker. Loss of softpower, increased debt, infighting in the country, health, fighting with allies until they are no longer allies and more unchecked corruption to ruin the rest of the country.
And at what cost to them. Basically nothing. Putin gets NATO broken up, Xi gets to be the undisputed top dog and the they don’t have to do anything but watch.
And suck their dicks.
his handlers
It would be really funny if they give him a wedgie
Nothing good will come from corrupt war mongers meeting up. If the world wants to make meaningful change for long lasting peace, whoever can needs to assassinate all 3 of these scumbags when they’re together. Just get it over with already and stop kicking the can down the road.
Can they meet in a submarine in the mariana trench?
They could just visit the Titanic, would be fine with me.
