What are trans people?

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        make no mistake, we haven’t forgiven the transphobes for their rhetoric. but there’s a baby with the bathwater that we may want to keep around

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          not just rhetoric, policy. transphobic policy was implemented in 4 different states.
          thousands of trans babies drowned last night.
          this is on voters’ blood.

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            so is voting pointless, or by voting did we execute thousands of trans babies? you have to pick

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              :speechtop:
              how an electoralist mind works.

              Have you considered removing demagogues from power?

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                I’m unfamiliar with the term ‘demagogue’, but it looks like the internet states it as “a leader who obtains power by means of impassioned appeals to the emotions and prejudices of the populace”, which sounds like a disagreeable sort.

                That makes sense, I have an issue with a style of debate that relies too heavily on emotionally charged language. And ad-hominem attacks.

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                  The term is older than that, as seppos are purposely not taught politics, or the sciences of politics. When you elect someone to have power over you, you are asking someone to govern and rule over you. You would have no say if they change their minds after elections, esp. if they flip on issues you voted them in power for.
                  Seppos have never experienced democracies, as the have had a plutocracy for centuries now. They aren’t politically aware ballots are exploitation consent contracts, not opinion positions.

                  When I use “demagoguery” here, I mean electing your exploiters into power, not actually directing your political will. If we both want transpeople not being hated, we should be empowered to do so. We shouldn’t be forced and criminalized for helping trans people. Demagogues do want to control us, dominate us, and ridicule us. Excusing state hate is no policy I want to be part of.

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                actually, let’s take a step back. what would you want, what are you doing to move towards that goal, and what do you expect us to do?

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                  Horizontalidad, and total empowerment of the people. Trans folks should have every right to care, play in whatever sports, use restrooms, without being hated on. These 4 statists showed they are willing to deny healthcare to folks, deny sports, and inspect genitals just to be able to control others.

                  As a black anarchist, I train everyone self-defense, arm them, feed them, shelter, etc… Something South Carolinians, Washingtonians, Arizonan, & Coloradans aren’t willing to support.

                  If you’re in any of these transphobic states, you need to hold transphobes accountable for hate. You need make sports guilds that support trans folk, you need to make restrooms inclusive, and above all, provide full health coverage to trans people, no matter their conditions. This is what it means to take accountability. Can you show up and support trans people in these states?

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      All the people in the images are revolutionaries who had to violently fight the states they were in, and expressed the need to continue to empower people’s means of power. They all opposed their states. This compilation is a satirical censorship that voting within state rules will ever empower you and I. “Voting matters!!” Blatantly statists hate being called out when they do have electoral power, and do nothing to empower us. Instead, they mock us. Call us seditionists. Meanwhile do squat about the ongoing genocide within.

      Trans people are not political talking points.

      • rockerface🇺🇦@lemmy.cafe
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        Yeah, because Mao and Lenin totally didn’t seize the power of their respective states and totally didn’t establish the next round of dictatorships after their revolutions.

        You might be hurting more trans people than helping with this post.

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          Calling out demagoguery dictatorship is praxis. Scroll back in this🧵. I am legitimately the only person calling out South Carolina, Arizona, Washington, & Colorado anti trans legislation Democrats mob ruled preyesterday night.
          I’ll forgive you for misreading

          What are trans people?

          unsarcastically

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            I’ve got that part, but I’m befuddled by the decision to add dictators to your compilation and call them “revolutionaries” who “empowered the people”. That kinda diminishes the good the rest of the people in this compilation has done.

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        I agree with you that the DNC is utterly crap, but I think you are willfully ignoring the good stuff that happened yesterday.

        A lot of anti-trans legislators have been voted out. This is great news.

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            you are refusing to acknowledge the other side of these conversations. yes, some bad shit passed. either go work towards real change or help people here affectuate change. standing around saying everyone should be an anarchist has some very russian agent vibes, especially “as a black anarchist”.

            you speak like a poorly trained state actor.

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              if “real change and helping people affectuate change” means I have to ignore transgenocide, I think the DNC Zionist is speaking from experience what “affectuate change” means.
              Do you need me to warm your walls tonight?