It’s a fairly straight forward look at some other things they (and possibly the person I was talking to, jury’s still out on that) have in common. No value judgement.
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Millions. They’ve killed millions within the last few decades and hurt many millions more.
There people care more about price of gas and some rose garden than many millions killed in their name.
Fkn deplorables have the nerve to get mad at anyone criticizing the Democrats instead of getting mad at their party for facilitating and funding a fkn genocide in front of our eyes.
I agree that the real number is higher, I only say hundreds of thousands because it is irrefutable that at least that many died, it’s horrific regardless of the exact number, and I want to avoid getting sidetracked by an argument about the details of who to count or what sources are more reliable.
That’s nothing compared to the scale of death from the full-scale invasion and occupation of Afghanistan, which Obama (like Trump) chose to continue and double down on, when he could’ve stopped it at literally any time.
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Is is worse to fail to prevent death, or to cause it directly? I don’t really care to engage in this game of whether directly killing hundreds of thousands of people is better or worse than failing to prevent the deaths of millions. Like, it should be clear enough that they’re both irredeemable mass murderers who nobody should be defending.
I really don’t understand your point. You think trump is not that bad compared to Obama, but yet trump did all of the same things? Also, trump didn’t directly kill them, but I’m not going to discuss whether that’s good or bad. You’ll probably say the same about Covid then? Because he indirectly killed 100s of thousands* of Americans with his policies. Last comment.
You think trump is not that bad compared to Obama, but yet trump did all of the same things?You think trump is not that bad compared to Obama, but yet trump did all of the same things?
My point is that both are bad, and we need an actual alternative. Even in an example that’s supposed to show a real difference between Democrats and Republicans, they both suck ass and they both killed countless innocent people in pointless wars of aggression. Don’t think that just because I hate Obama that I hate Trump any less, I don’t think in those partisan terms.
For 20 years, the war in Afghanistan went on, regardless of whether it was a Democrat or a Republican in office. Many congressional Democrats supported the war. Now, after pouring endless amounts of blood and treasure into it to accomplish absolutely nothing (an outcome that was clear enough long ago), it’s proven to be a total, abject failure.
Part of the reason Trump got elected was because he was able to distance himself from the absolute dogshit establishment wings of both parties. Obviously, it was a lie, which was clear enough before his first term but even more obvious when he got reelected, but people bought into. In part, because Harris, like Clinton and every Democratic nominee for at least the last 20 years, has been a complete, unabashed war hawk, and when they criticize Trump, its usually for being too friendly to “our” supposed enemies. Now, they’ve finally given up on Afghanistan, but they’ve simply shifted the theater to Palestine.
This is obviously unacceptable. It needs to end. END. Not “be reduced in intensity” or “be conducted the right way,” but to END. And that’s never going to happen so long as people show that they’re perfectly happy with meaningless token gestures, polite aesthetics, and a “kinder, gentler machine gun hand.”
More than once I’ve had ideologues argue with me that “slavery wasn’t so bad in this particular system compared to that type of slavery”. Completely unable to understand that I’m capable of hating all sorts of slavery without accepting it as a default “necessary-evil”.
We can acknowledge that Donald is bad without giving a pass to Democrats doing exactly the same fkn thing but with pink washing and feel-good tokens.
Is it good that Dems made room for trans folks and rainbow huggers in the military? Yes. Progress. Yay… but fuck ALL of those imperial babykillers with rusty daggers regardless of their genitals and preferred fuckbuddies and sexuality.
“How can you possibly compare Ted Bundy to Jeffery Dahmer? So what if they were both serial killers, they both breathed air too, hEy, DoN’t YoU bReAtHe AiR?”
Because the victims are mostly muslims. The Christian ones aren’t following white European Christianity, they mostly follow the old creeds so they don’t matter. They’re “sand people” and beneath the ubermensch.
Most of the USians and a significant number in the western sphere don’t even acknowledge the genocide. They’re mad at the protesters who bitch and complain about the genocide. They’re okay with zionists murdering every single Palestinian in existence. Gas prices matter more than number of innocents slaughtered.
Because a genocide going on clear on the other side of the planet doesn’t change what the most intelligent choice politically is for Americans in the United States.
It absolutely does, considering the Statesian political project facilitates and props up the genocides in Palestine and Cuba. The US Empire is committing genocide because it economically benefits from perpetuating imperialism, and means the intelligent choice is to organize for revolution, rather than continue to prop up genocide.
Biden’s White House had the Epstein files and could have released them at any time.
Idk if they rape children, but it sure seems they hid the information and avoided the prosecution of dozens to hundreds of people who definitely raped children.
They’re similar enough that choosing to vote third party is a no brainer.
Give me someone kinda shitty, but not a genocidal freak, and I’d actually have to think about it. But these people are obviously unacceptable, and there are only two reasons one might think otherwise: either absolute, blind, unconditional loyalty to the party, or, not seeing the lives of Middle Easterners as human beings.
If your party won’t even consider my conditions and red lines, then what they’re saying is that they don’t want or need my vote. Fine then, stop complaining when you don’t get it.
Oh man haha. My dyslexic ass initially ready that as “they’re both born in the middle East” and I was like “well that certainly is a unique theory I haven’t heard before”
members of both parties support legislation that harms and kills trans people. or are you merely virtue-signaling for a group you don’t personally understand?
Hell, I’ve seen liberals on this very site demanding trans people vote for a Democrat who has openly promised to restrict their healthcare or work with Repubs to keep trans people out of sports.
People should be free to use whatever website they want. Just as people should be free to vote how they want and be able to transfer their vote if their first pick didnt win.
If you dont like them or what they say… block them.
Tankies when you mention any democrat
They both bomb the middle east.
They also both breathe air. Wait a minute, do YOU breathe air too??
The analogy that bombing poors is to the commander in chief as breathing is to normal people is probably a little more based than you meant it to be
Cool. Though I don’t know why you’re telling me since that’s not an analogy I drew.
Is there another interpretation of “They also both breathe air. Wait a minute, do YOU breathe air too??” that I’m missing somehow?
It’s a fairly straight forward look at some other things they (and possibly the person I was talking to, jury’s still out on that) have in common. No value judgement.
You absolutely did. Just unintentionally.
Sure if you discount literally all context and nuance, but that’s kinda the tankie playbook innit.
…did you mean to reply to me with this cause it made no sense.
I’m sure it didn’t to you.
The Author Is Dead, you’re entitled to your opinion and whatever I may have intended is of course of secondary importance.
Hello ten day old both sides account.
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If you’re parroting nonsense that amounts to both parties being the same then you’re here in bad faith in the first place.
If you’re here just to drive-by purity test strangers I wish you’d leave!
You’re a ten day old account trying to discourage democratic voters. There really needs to be a way to easily identify and block ml alts.
Age of the account doesn’t make them any less correct, you don’t have a better response because you know they’re right
No but parroting both sides nonsense makes them an idiot or a rube which is just a useful idiot. Anyways y’all work for fascists.
You’re losing and you know it
Oh no people that work for MAGA disagree with me!
What a clown-ass comment.
What’s a few wars of aggression between friends? What does it matter how many hundreds of thousands of people you kill, who’s counting?
B-but Trump bulldozed the East Wing of the White House! That’s what really matters!
Millions. They’ve killed millions within the last few decades and hurt many millions more.
There people care more about price of gas and some rose garden than many millions killed in their name.
Fkn deplorables have the nerve to get mad at anyone criticizing the Democrats instead of getting mad at their party for facilitating and funding a fkn genocide in front of our eyes.
I agree that the real number is higher, I only say hundreds of thousands because it is irrefutable that at least that many died, it’s horrific regardless of the exact number, and I want to avoid getting sidetracked by an argument about the details of who to count or what sources are more reliable.
What’s the Gaza genocide that Biden and Harris facilitated? Or do you think its not a genocide or significant?
How about Syria?
Iraq?
Libya?
Afghanistan?
Somalia? Yemen?
What about USian veterans?
You’re only focused on Donald. Some of us are talking about all the victims of the imperial war machine, not just 1 man or 1 party.
How does any of this change what the more intelligent choice is for Americans in the U.S.?
Nothing will change for better in that shithole country with your clownish talk and attitude.
That’s nothing compared to the scale of death from the full-scale invasion and occupation of Afghanistan, which Obama (like Trump) chose to continue and double down on, when he could’ve stopped it at literally any time.
Is is worse to fail to prevent death, or to cause it directly? I don’t really care to engage in this game of whether directly killing hundreds of thousands of people is better or worse than failing to prevent the deaths of millions. Like, it should be clear enough that they’re both irredeemable mass murderers who nobody should be defending.
Two things can be bad at the same time.
I really don’t understand your point. You think trump is not that bad compared to Obama, but yet trump did all of the same things? Also, trump didn’t directly kill them, but I’m not going to discuss whether that’s good or bad. You’ll probably say the same about Covid then? Because he indirectly killed 100s of thousands* of Americans with his policies. Last comment.
My point is that both are bad, and we need an actual alternative. Even in an example that’s supposed to show a real difference between Democrats and Republicans, they both suck ass and they both killed countless innocent people in pointless wars of aggression. Don’t think that just because I hate Obama that I hate Trump any less, I don’t think in those partisan terms.
For 20 years, the war in Afghanistan went on, regardless of whether it was a Democrat or a Republican in office. Many congressional Democrats supported the war. Now, after pouring endless amounts of blood and treasure into it to accomplish absolutely nothing (an outcome that was clear enough long ago), it’s proven to be a total, abject failure.
Part of the reason Trump got elected was because he was able to distance himself from the absolute dogshit establishment wings of both parties. Obviously, it was a lie, which was clear enough before his first term but even more obvious when he got reelected, but people bought into. In part, because Harris, like Clinton and every Democratic nominee for at least the last 20 years, has been a complete, unabashed war hawk, and when they criticize Trump, its usually for being too friendly to “our” supposed enemies. Now, they’ve finally given up on Afghanistan, but they’ve simply shifted the theater to Palestine.
This is obviously unacceptable. It needs to end. END. Not “be reduced in intensity” or “be conducted the right way,” but to END. And that’s never going to happen so long as people show that they’re perfectly happy with meaningless token gestures, polite aesthetics, and a “kinder, gentler machine gun hand.”
More than once I’ve had ideologues argue with me that “slavery wasn’t so bad in this particular system compared to that type of slavery”. Completely unable to understand that I’m capable of hating all sorts of slavery without accepting it as a default “necessary-evil”.
We can acknowledge that Donald is bad without giving a pass to Democrats doing exactly the same fkn thing but with pink washing and feel-good tokens.
Is it good that Dems made room for trans folks and rainbow huggers in the military? Yes. Progress. Yay… but fuck ALL of those imperial babykillers with rusty daggers regardless of their genitals and preferred fuckbuddies and sexuality.
That’s totally what I said, excellent reading comprehension, air breather.
Yes, it is.
“How can you possibly compare Ted Bundy to Jeffery Dahmer? So what if they were both serial killers, they both breathed air too, hEy, DoN’t YoU bReAtHe AiR?”
Dumbest shit I’ve read in a long while.
You accidentally a word there, mate.
I’d rather make a thousand typos than try to make a point as flimsy as yours.
Nice one :)
You’re right.
All people are awful and none of them should be in charge.
are you discriminating against people that breathe oxygenated perflourocarbons?
Not at all. I always failed Chemistry though, should I?
Why are you dismissing the genocide in Palestine as though it’s as benign as breathing?
Because the victims are mostly muslims. The Christian ones aren’t following white European Christianity, they mostly follow the old creeds so they don’t matter. They’re “sand people” and beneath the ubermensch.
Most of the USians and a significant number in the western sphere don’t even acknowledge the genocide. They’re mad at the protesters who bitch and complain about the genocide. They’re okay with zionists murdering every single Palestinian in existence. Gas prices matter more than number of innocents slaughtered.
Because a genocide going on clear on the other side of the planet doesn’t change what the most intelligent choice politically is for Americans in the United States.
It absolutely does, considering the Statesian political project facilitates and props up the genocides in Palestine and Cuba. The US Empire is committing genocide because it economically benefits from perpetuating imperialism, and means the intelligent choice is to organize for revolution, rather than continue to prop up genocide.
Hell yeah, there we go. Nicely ml’d.
How else could it be interpreted? If you’re not going to answer this question, don’t bother replying.
Did they both rape children too?
Biden’s White House had the Epstein files and could have released them at any time.
Idk if they rape children, but it sure seems they hid the information and avoided the prosecution of dozens to hundreds of people who definitely raped children.
One wants to murder children, the other wants to murder and rape children. See, tankies, they’re not the same at all!
They are different enough that choosing who to vote is no brainer :/
They’re similar enough that choosing to vote third party is a no brainer.
Give me someone kinda shitty, but not a genocidal freak, and I’d actually have to think about it. But these people are obviously unacceptable, and there are only two reasons one might think otherwise: either absolute, blind, unconditional loyalty to the party, or, not seeing the lives of Middle Easterners as human beings.
If your party won’t even consider my conditions and red lines, then what they’re saying is that they don’t want or need my vote. Fine then, stop complaining when you don’t get it.
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Oh man haha. My dyslexic ass initially ready that as “they’re both born in the middle East” and I was like “well that certainly is a unique theory I haven’t heard before”
And one wants to execute trans people.
You don’t care about them, do you?
members of both parties support legislation that harms and kills trans people. or are you merely virtue-signaling for a group you don’t personally understand?
Hell, I’ve seen liberals on this very site demanding trans people vote for a Democrat who has openly promised to restrict their healthcare or work with Repubs to keep trans people out of sports.
The majority of Democrats do want rights for trans people.
While the Majority of Republicans don’t.
If you care about trans, you vote Democrat. There they get the best chances to live.
And what some so-called liberals do on this site doesn’t matter unless they are politicians. But I bet they were bots from .ml weren’t they?
Because that’s the only thing we should ever take into account when choosing what ideology will dictate our futures.
Y’all can’t help yourselves.
They’re right and you know it
So easily triggered. Delicate.
The person triggerd by the the objectively true phrase “They both bomb the middle east.” complains about others being triggered. Great succes!
Makes false equivalence about both sides, works for Russia and MAGA, dubs is a good bot.
When did I make a false equivalence? Can you point that out? Because I’m pretty confident that I only provided factually correct information.
Libs and triggered into racism by data: Name a more iconic duo
Oh fuck you’re a two month old account exclusively bitching about dems, you actually are a fuckin propaganda bot.
Ah yes. It couldn’t be that I think that bombing innocent people is bad, even when its the Blue Team doing it. It must be that I’m a bot
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Lol go back to reddit
People should be free to use whatever website they want. Just as people should be free to vote how they want and be able to transfer their vote if their first pick didnt win.
If you dont like them or what they say… block them.
I’m also free to use this website, and I’m using it to tell that fucking dork and you to go back to reddit where you belong
Stalk me harder baby. I’m almost there.
Lol try harder halfwit
Jesus. At least try to say something else for every comment you leave. If you aren’t a bot, you may as well be.
If you want more from me then earn it
They’re not the same, but you should have higher standards then “not as bad as republicans”. That bar is buried 6 feet under.