• Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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    No.

    People absolutely loath getting stuck in traffic, and the existence of truckers does not mean that the majority of people love traffic and wasted space, fighting over parking, wasting tons of money, and destroying the environment.

    You implied that dense requires ugliness and lacking character, which is the exact opposite of reality. Car-centric infrastructure is incredibly ugly and lacks any and all character, it’s just roads and parking garages, traffic, and pollution.

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      No some people don’t mind being stuck in traffic. If it makes your drive 4x longer because of bad design that’s different. At the worst in my large city it’s 50% longer to get across the city unless there’s an accident. That 20 minutes to a whopping 30 minutes to travel the almost 40km from north to south.

      Its ugly and lacks character because its dense, I’m sorry you can’t understand other peoples opinions and only yours apparently is valid.

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        Name one person that either enjoys or doesn’t mind being stuck in traffic. Your example of the worst case scenario being an accident is a problem that is caused by car-centric infrastructure.

        Density is not ugly nor does it lack character, that’s an absurd statement. Ugly things can be dense, but to claim that Density itself is ugly is absurd.

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          Ah yes you can’t seem to understand out of the over 7 billion people on this planet, they all must share your opinion.

          Nice bubble you live in.

          And hey, I love it, now you do know one. But I’m not the only one and to claim that would be the asinine and absurd thing. Not to think that someone could have a differing opinion. You realize lots of people CHOOSE to live in these cities and aren’t forcedor anything yeah? Just because you feel that way doesn’t mean everyone does, sorry. And sorry I forgot you can’t seem to comprehend this, maybe I should drop this extremely obvious point that pokes flaws in your view….

          Nice community you have here lmfao.

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            “No you don’t understand, because there are a bunch of people, the majority loves excruciating pain and CBT.”

            You’re arguing for inefficient and slow infrastructure on the grounds that efficiency is bad and inefficiency is fun for you personally.

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              I’m saying it can all exist together if you were actually paying attention.

              And comparing a minor inconvenience to torture, that’ll get people to understand your side… good job!

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                You’re saying people love inconvenience and that’s why everyone should bend over backwards to support the overwhelmingly inconvenient infrastructure to maintain inefficient and inconvenient traditions.

                It’s anti-science and anti-progress, lol

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                  I’m saying some people can get over a minor inconvenience. You do when you take a slower method of transport like public, walking or biking.

                  So yeah YOU can love an inconvenience, but others can’t…? Shit take yet again…

                  You’re ignoring that it can be done correctly and is in some places. Why do people always conveniently do this?

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                    It isn’t a minor inconvenience. It completely ruins infrastructure, eliminates vast amounts of space, destroys the environment, and sucks people’s time.