Started to move off Google’s services to proton:

  • Atemu@lemmy.ml
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    11 months ago

    They’re not doing like proton and close basic stuff like IMAP and SMTP as a way to force you on the official apps

    The reason Proton cannot do IMAP/SMTP is that they cannot read your emails which is required for both. That’s a feature, not a bug.

    PM works with any app as long as the app implements their custom protocol for which there are at least two FOSS implementations as a reference.

    proton is a “fake” open source that is mostly used for marketing: they opened only the UI, which communicates with a proprietary protocol to a proprietary server - useless

    While I’d also prefer their back-end to be OSS, it’s not nearly as critical as the clients.
    As a user, it doesn’t make a difference. I’m paying for an opaque service either way.

    All the interesting stuff (E2EE, zero access storage) happen in the clients anyways. The BE is fairly uninteresting; it’s a mail server + zero-access encryption + Proton account handling. If you really wanted to build a mail service similar to Proton, you could build that yourself and probably would have to anyways.

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      11 months ago

      i think instead the opposite. The backend is the real interesting part, and the only way that we can be sure that “they cannot read the emails” (they arrive in clear, saved with reversible encryption and they have a key for it - if you use their services to commit crimes they will collaborate with the law enforcement agencies like everyone else)

      imap/smtp can be toggled with a warning, if that’s really their concern. As of now i have the feeling that’s instead blocked to keep users inside (no IMAP = no easy migration to somewhere else) or to limit usage (no SMTP = no sending mass email)