• BoxedFenders [any, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    6 months ago

    So? There are Jews living in Israel who oppose their government too. That doesn’t mean Israel isn’t both an ethnofascist state AND country.

    And as an American whose government is filled with fascists, feel free to call my country fascist as well.

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      6 months ago

      As I see it, there’s no such country as “Israel”. It is a settler-colonial occupation state that stole a country. There’s only Palestine

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      Judging by the interviews and polls i’ve seen so far it seems to me that the major difference between Ukraine and “Israel”, though both are fascist states, is that Banderites and their ideology are still a minority in Ukraine whereas Zionism is absolutely predominant in the settler colony. The majority of the “Israeli” settler population are violently racist and genuinely genocidal. You will be very hard pressed to find an “Israeli” who is not a Zionist even on the “left”. Most Ukrainians on the other hand are so demoralized by the inescapable corruption in their country and the hopelessness of their situation that they simply don’t pay any attention anymore to politics and are just trying to survive day to day. They are too scared and beaten down to oppose the regime and its thugs. I genuinely feel bad for the (non-Banderite) Ukrainians and how they are being used and discarded by the West. I don’t have any of that same sympathy for the settler colonists who enthusiastically cheer on for more murder and genocide of Palestinians.