It is playing on stereotypes of Jews as blood-sucking vampires and parasites, drinking the blood of Christian children, as notoriously claimed in the ‘Elders of Zion’. It is presenting him as a demon, linking this with his Bolshevism and Jewishness. It is accentuating stereotypes about Jewish physical appearance while doing so. It is also playing on the proto-fascist fear at the time of the Judeo-Bolsheviks leading the ‘asiatic/mongol hordes’ of ‘barbarians’ to bring down ‘civilized’ Europe.
Word (portmanteau) chosen to be denote “Soviets State” is also a derisive one, typically used by those hostile to it. (Perhaps not unlike CPC vs CCP nowadays)
You only see, that it is somehow against trotsky, isnt? This is a propaganda poster of the white army. It would be naive to think, that there is nothng anti-communist about this poster. So you have to take a look under which conditions this poster was made:
The white army blamed jews for bolshevism. Remeber the progroms? The protocols of the elders of zion and the black hundreds? In the propaganda of the white army Trotsky often had demonic features because he was jewish and played an important role in the civil war. This is a continuity of the anti-semitic agenda of tsarist russia. And it was in fact so, that young jews became revolutioners, they saw a better life in socialism, than in antisemitic tsarism.
the flag still says RSFSR, so im also confused how this would be anticommunist as well (unless being anti-trotsky = anti-communist?)
So what is the poster transtlated?
“Peace and Freedom in the Soviet Russia” is written on the top. And you see a red demonic Trotsky, a jew with millions of skulls under him.
Should you be not conviced, then look here for the original poster, which i didnt post:
Also other posters from that time exist.
It is even without the david star antisemitic considering under which conditions it was created. The Nazis later extended it clearly with the idea of judeo-bolshevism, which also had its roots in all of the anti-semitic attacks (Dont forget Marx, he was often attacked of simply having jewish heritage) marxism received.
And if you look what the far right is saying about communism: Jews. October revolution: Jews. Marxism: Founded by jews and continued by jews. Jews, jews jews.
Sorry if I sound harsh, but it’s not so easy to understand the seriousness of your comment
what the hell am i even going to gain from asking a non-serious question? seriously, cut it with the fucking assuming the worst of others, especially someone who’s been in the grad for way more than you ever have. unlike you i’m not aware of every single little thing about soviet history and culture.
As I already said, I am sorry if that sounded harsh, but my explanation is still valid. I was not sure about your seriousness simply because you ended with the question: ‘unless being anti-trotsky = anti-communist?)’
I have had enough contact with ‘Marxists’ who will even repeat straight far-right propaganda if it is something against Trotsky, even spreading antisemitic lies. His Jewish heritage is one of the most popular attack points. I have a Russian book here, named ‘Leaders and Tyrants’ from the 90s, which loves to point out every time that he is Jewish.
Considering all this and how your question was formulated, it could have been a non-serious question. A person asking this non-seriously would gain nothing, but rather reveal their hatred against Trotsky, even if it is done in an anti-semitic manner.
especially someone who’s been in the grad for way more than you ever have
I don’t know what you have read or not, how far you are already. But if I were to assume that you are well-read in Marxist literature, then your question would have everything of what I have described above. With the people I deal with, such a scenario is very likely, even online. Such is also possible on Lemmygrad, of course.
But now I know that it doesn’t apply to you. That’s why I also wrote that I am sorry for the harshness due to the uncertainty regarding your seriousness.
I hope you understand now why I answered the way I did.
However, it wasn’t my intention to offend you. I am sorry if I did. But my explanation is still valid; you can ignore the harshness, or I can rewrite it in a manner that is not harsh.
unlike you i’m not aware of every single little thing about soviet history and culture.
I am also not aware of everything. I am still learning. But it is not about soviet culture or history. If you are interested in soviet culture, I encourage you to take look on soviet films.
Wouldnt say that, their anticommunist propaganda is also kind of anti-semitic
Me and my Jewish comrades making the world a better place:
…im sorry, what is antisemetic about this picture? to me it seems to just denigrate trotsky (the blood demon/monster/ogre thing looks like trotsky)
the flag still says RSFSR, so im also confused how this would be anticommunist as well (unless being anti-trotsky = anti-communist?)
It is playing on stereotypes of Jews as blood-sucking vampires and parasites, drinking the blood of Christian children, as notoriously claimed in the ‘Elders of Zion’. It is presenting him as a demon, linking this with his Bolshevism and Jewishness. It is accentuating stereotypes about Jewish physical appearance while doing so. It is also playing on the proto-fascist fear at the time of the Judeo-Bolsheviks leading the ‘asiatic/mongol hordes’ of ‘barbarians’ to bring down ‘civilized’ Europe.
Word (portmanteau) chosen to be denote “Soviets State” is also a derisive one, typically used by those hostile to it. (Perhaps not unlike CPC vs CCP nowadays)
You only see, that it is somehow against trotsky, isnt? This is a propaganda poster of the white army. It would be naive to think, that there is nothng anti-communist about this poster. So you have to take a look under which conditions this poster was made:
The white army blamed jews for bolshevism. Remeber the progroms? The protocols of the elders of zion and the black hundreds? In the propaganda of the white army Trotsky often had demonic features because he was jewish and played an important role in the civil war. This is a continuity of the anti-semitic agenda of tsarist russia. And it was in fact so, that young jews became revolutioners, they saw a better life in socialism, than in antisemitic tsarism.
So what is the poster transtlated? “Peace and Freedom in the Soviet Russia” is written on the top. And you see a red demonic Trotsky, a jew with millions of skulls under him.
Should you be not conviced, then look here for the original poster, which i didnt post:
Also other posters from that time exist.
It is even without the david star antisemitic considering under which conditions it was created. The Nazis later extended it clearly with the idea of judeo-bolshevism, which also had its roots in all of the anti-semitic attacks (Dont forget Marx, he was often attacked of simply having jewish heritage) marxism received.
And if you look what the far right is saying about communism: Jews. October revolution: Jews. Marxism: Founded by jews and continued by jews. Jews, jews jews.
Sorry if I sound harsh, but it’s not so easy to understand the seriousness of your comment
what the hell am i even going to gain from asking a non-serious question? seriously, cut it with the fucking assuming the worst of others, especially someone who’s been in the grad for way more than you ever have. unlike you i’m not aware of every single little thing about soviet history and culture.
As I already said, I am sorry if that sounded harsh, but my explanation is still valid. I was not sure about your seriousness simply because you ended with the question: ‘unless being anti-trotsky = anti-communist?)’
I have had enough contact with ‘Marxists’ who will even repeat straight far-right propaganda if it is something against Trotsky, even spreading antisemitic lies. His Jewish heritage is one of the most popular attack points. I have a Russian book here, named ‘Leaders and Tyrants’ from the 90s, which loves to point out every time that he is Jewish.
Considering all this and how your question was formulated, it could have been a non-serious question. A person asking this non-seriously would gain nothing, but rather reveal their hatred against Trotsky, even if it is done in an anti-semitic manner.
I don’t know what you have read or not, how far you are already. But if I were to assume that you are well-read in Marxist literature, then your question would have everything of what I have described above. With the people I deal with, such a scenario is very likely, even online. Such is also possible on Lemmygrad, of course.
But now I know that it doesn’t apply to you. That’s why I also wrote that I am sorry for the harshness due to the uncertainty regarding your seriousness.
I hope you understand now why I answered the way I did.
However, it wasn’t my intention to offend you. I am sorry if I did. But my explanation is still valid; you can ignore the harshness, or I can rewrite it in a manner that is not harsh.
I am also not aware of everything. I am still learning. But it is not about soviet culture or history. If you are interested in soviet culture, I encourage you to take look on soviet films.