1.“Federal agencies have the authority to intervene in protests, picket signs, or blockades. The law is impartial: it must be enforced without exception.”

2.“Federal forces are not required to have judicial oversight for their actions.”

3.“Forces are not obligated to consider alternative entrances or pathways. If the main path is blocked, their duty is to clear it.”

4.“This action continues until the flow of traffic is fully restored.”

5.“To carry out these acts, forces will use the minimum necessary force, which is sufficient and proportional to the situation they are addressing.”

6.“Instigators and organizers of the protest will be identified.”

7.“Vehicles used in the protest will be identified and subjected to citations or penalties.”

8.“Data of the instigators, accomplices, participants, and organizers will be transmitted to the authorities through appropriate channels.”

9.“Notices will be sent to the judge in cases of damage, such as burning flags.”

10.“In cases involving minors, relevant authorities will be notified, and the guardians of these youths who bring them to these demonstrations will face sanctions and punishment.”

11.“The costs incurred by security operations will be borne by the responsible organizations or individuals. In cases involving foreigners with provisional residency, information will be forwarded to the National Directorate of Immigration.”

12.“A registry will be created for organizations that participate in these types of actions.”

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    I thought that my phrasing made it clear I’ve already supported the joke you are trying to make, to the extent it’s worth doing so.

    Now let’s get back to totalitarian dictatorships, genocides and hunger. These are kinda worse than a few pedophiles.

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        For somebody who can’t get jokes without an “/s” - surely.

        For others a sentence starting with “that really was unfair” and equating copyright and age of consent is clearly a joke.

        Other than that I don’t need to “play off” anything for ya, we’re not in any connection which would make it important.

        Now let’s get back to totalitarian dictatorships, hunger, genocides, freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, due process and all that.

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          “Age of consent and copyright are two issues on which libertarians are split” doesn’t come across as a joke without an “/s” because it’s functionally identical to an argument a libertarian would unironically make. If that doesn’t tell you it’s a thoroughly unserious ideology, I don’t know what would.

          Freedom of speech? You mean like the Western kind of freeze-peach that coddles Nazis instead of throwing them in a pit?

          Totalitarian dictatorships? You mean like Chiang Kai-shek’s Taiwan, the military dictatorships of South Korea, Argentina or Brazil, Pinochet’s Chile, fascist Italy, Nazi Germany and Francoist Spain?

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            Some French communists would unironically make that argument in 1960s.

            It also coddles tankies, if you know what I mean.

            Yeah, those included.

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          The us has the largest prisoner population in the world, but sure, it’s the left wing ideologies that promote totalitarianism lol.

          The average soviet citizens diet had more calories than the average us citizens diet, according to internal CIA documents.
          Millions are starving every day in this capitalist system. There is a constant famine which we do lot acknowledge. This famine exists despite the fact we produce 1.21 times the amount of food needed to feed everyone.

          The United states murdered millions of indigenous people. It has not stopped murdering people, the brunt of the violence has merely moved abroad.
          The Nazis - from whose governance the term ‘privatization’ was invented, to describe the offselling of state property - did a lot of genocide too.

          Freedom of speech? You can get arrested for insulting an officer in the us. You can get arrested for demonstrating. You can get hauled off to black sites. You can get disappeared in unmarked vans, as we saw frequently during the summer of 2020.

          Freedom of conscience? Lmao jesse-wtf

          Due process? Are you a child? What country do you think does due process? When has there ever been a good example of this? The courts are so very corrupt. At least the Chinese punish billionaires as they do everyone else.

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            Freedom of speech? You can get arrested for insulting an officer in the us. You can get arrested for demonstrating. You can get hauled off to black sites. You can get disappeared in unmarked vans, as we saw frequently during the summer of 2020.

            Let’s add McCarthyism to that list and point out that there’s still technically a law that forbids communist parties in the US. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Control_Act_of_1954

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            The average soviet citizens diet had more calories than the average us citizens diet

            Not sure about average US citizen, but I know how average and even well off Soviet citizens ate.

            This famine exists despite the fact we produce 1.21 times the amount of food needed to feed everyone.

            You do realize that lots of food produced in USSR would just rot not reaching anybody purely because of logistics being fucked up? People wouldn’t die from hunger caused by poverty there in its fatter years, yes, here you are right. But, say, army would get plenty of malnourished conscripts (actually most of them), it was as normal as in XIX century.

            The United states murdered millions of indigenous people. It has not stopped murdering people, the brunt of the violence has merely moved abroad. The Nazis - from whose governance the term ‘privatization’ was invented, to describe the offselling of state property - did a lot of genocide too.

            You are trying to prove that USSR was as bad as everyone else? With Afghanistan and all?.. I may agree, so?

            Freedom of speech? You can get arrested for insulting an officer in the us. You can get arrested for demonstrating. You can get hauled off to black sites. You can get disappeared in unmarked vans, as we saw frequently during the summer of 2020.

            The key word here is “can” as opposed to “will be as a rule”.

            Due process? Are you a child? What country do you think does due process? When has there ever been a good example of this? The courts are so very corrupt. At least the Chinese punish billionaires as they do everyone else.

            Again, are you trying to prove USSR was as bad as everyone else? In general yeah. Only designed the way that it failed.

            At least the Chinese punish billionaires as they do everyone else.

            Their billionaires are almost officials. Their properties and power can be taken away any time. They can receive orders and they will follow them.

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              First off, what is up with your reading comprehension?

              You do realize that lots of food produced in USSR would just rot not reaching anybody purely because of logistics being fucked up?

              You do realize I am speaking of the current systems production of food, right? You do realize we can treat food in such a way as to not have it spoil, right? You do realize we are currently disposing of 40% of food, before it even hits store shelves, right? We dispose of this food, not because it is spoiled, but because it will not sell for as much as the rest of it, and it selling it would increase supply, lowering profits made. This is the current system we live in.

              Now lets go thru your answers.

              People wouldn’t die from hunger caused by poverty there in its fatter years, yes, here you are right

              The USSR had one famine at the nascence of the unions existence. Communist China has had one famine at the nascense of existence. The capitalist west has millions starve every year, despite centuries of existense.

              You are trying to prove that USSR was as bad as everyone else? With Afghanistan and all?.. I may agree, so?

              Ahahahaha eyyy you managed to name afghanistan. Now let’s compare to the US. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change

              The key word here is “can” as opposed to “will be as a rule”.

              Lmao what is this weak attempt at semantics? “Uh uh excuse me, you used the word ‘can’ not ‘will’”. Buddy, I gave you a slew of examples of things that happened and are happening in the us, which, once again, has the largest prisoner population on the globe. Interacting with police in the US will, as a rule, end badly for you. As a rule, upsetting the US regime, will get you arrested (at best).

              Again, are you trying to prove USSR was as bad as everyone else? In general yeah. Only designed the way that it failed.

              I am highlighting how your idea of governance is rooted in an idealistic and unrealistic view of reality.

              Their properties and power can be taken away any time.

              Yes, billionaires property can be taken away at any time. That time is when they break the law. This is a good thing.

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                Which just means that key party figures are the real billionaires there. And they live and behave like such more or less.

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                  You swing between “they can and do get purged all the time for ‘corruption’” and “they’re super corrupt and nothing happens”. Which is it?

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                    “The billionaires can be punished for doing bad things.”

                    “I dunno, sounds pretty good to me.”

                    very-intelligent “But this means the party were the real billionaires all along (jesse-wtf ?)”