• fckreddit@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    I guess we should forget about Tiananmen Square massacre then. Or the Uyghur genocide. Cool.

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      I assure you, if protestors (see rioters) in any western country burned 2 police or soldiers alive, it wouldn’t end with a so-called massacre where as many security forces died as rioters. It’d be a literal bloodbath, it’d be tens of thousands of dead and it’d be far better documented than a picture of bicycles lying around and a not killed man in front of tanks leaving the square the day after. I’m not even saying the 4th June incident isn’t well documented, but you assholes don’t give two shits when the documentation doesn’t suit your preconceptions.

      Also, even if you can’t be bothered to investigate the truth of the situation, even the US State dept. dropped the genocide line. If you don’t have independent thought you should at least follow direction.

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          Why do you believe it’s censored, other than because you’ve been told as much?

          Here’s a challenge, go to baidu, look up 4th June incident. Either you’ll get nothing and I’ll have egg on my face, or you’ll get pages and pages of results and you’ll have to reconsider. I know which is true, I did it before. It gives results even if you write Tiananmen Massacre, even if the results are overall less helpful.

          So how’ll it be, pal? Will you take a few minutes of your time, a translator, a vpn and a chinese search engine to test your ideas?

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              Then you’ll know how easy it is to access facts in both cases. I’m struggling to understand what sort of appeal to personal authority you were attempting, I suppose that’ll never be answered now.

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            1 year ago

            Don’t make that joke with them, that one just reaffirms their bullshit that we are all “brainwashed” or something.

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          Everyone has preconceptions, yours are based on the illusion of western supremacy.

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          I can fill pages with what I did and you didn’t that gives me confidence you’re the one acting with preconceptions based on propoganda, but it’d be quite useless. So I’ll issue you a challenge as well, for your edification only. Look for western news articles on whatever crime you think China has committed, preferably something more recent, and look though the linked sources.

          Seriously. While you’re taking a dump or whatever, open up an article, and check the links. A lot of them will be to other articles. After a chain of linking you might end up on a non-news page, maybe a UN thing, that references a study or report. You’ll probably have to dig up the report yourself. If you do all that you’ll find really stupid stuff, like a “study” that surveyed 8 people (yes, eight) to make the estimate that 1-3 million uyghurs are in camps. Or you’ll get to BBC saying “report says seeseepee officials want assimilation” and refer to a 50 page report that has one word that might be translated as assimilation and nothing else.

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      1 year ago

      Don’t forget about them. Read up about them.

      Edit: I should be clear so that I attract the right kind of down votes: if one reads up about Tiananmen and Xinjiang, they will find that the western MSM has lied to them.