Impasse at G20 despite moves by Washington and Beijing to rekindle bilateral discussions

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  • MrMakabar@slrpnk.net
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    1 year ago

    The EU has lower per capita emissions then China, since a few years.. Obviously there are still some issues when you adjust for trade, but even then it is pretty close.. The gap is looking very likely to widen, with China building new coal power plants and the EU accelerating its move away from fossil fuels, due to the energy war with Russia. It is important to say this kind of stuff, as a lot of middle income coutries have about the level of emissions of the EU nowadays and that shows action is needed. It also strengthens the moral position of the EU somewhat.

  • BackupRainDancer@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I think what bothers me most is the 2060 ‘comittment’ under their own ‘methods’. Smells like abusing shady EAC/RECs or the carbon sequestration tech we keep hearing is bunk.

    Theoretically if the scope 3 legislation across the world had teeth we’d see companies doing business with China having much higher than average emissions factors in their reports. Hopefully we’d see the market correct but not likely when oceans are hitting 101 and yet ‘climate talks are always challenging’ still.

    The only thing I hope is that the insurance companies bring a reality check sooner rather than later.

  • magnetosphere @beehaw.org
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    1 year ago

    Not surprising in the least (I mean the obstruction in general; not China in particular). Getting governments that hate one another to agree on real efforts to protect the environment just won’t happen. Once things get desperate enough, I can easily see countries going to war in an attempt to “save humanity”.

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      1 year ago

      We’ve seen agreements in the past - the Kigali amendment is a great example. It’s not impossible; just difficult.

      • magnetosphere @beehaw.org
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        1 year ago

        I hope I’m wrong. I still act like this is a solvable problem, just in case. I just think that by the time climate change gets extreme enough to change key peoples minds, it will be too late.