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This is the wedge issue that splits Latin America and East Asia away from the usual consensus

          • KobaCumTribute [she/her]@hexbear.net
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            I’ve always associated removing shoes at a house with like, upper middle class suburbanites and overbearing religious sorts, because those are the only ones I ever saw expect it growing up.

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          I live here and: its bad.

          I’m going to end up being one of the “overbearing” people that insists people take their shoes off I think, as I get older. I had a few people over and none of them took their shoes off this summer and they tracked dirt and shit all over that I then had to clean up. And I’m definitely no neat freak, not at all, but I don’t want rocks and dirt and road salt and puddles and etc all over my floors, I walk on those floors, mostly barefoot or in socks.

          maybe its less bad in places that don’t get much snow or rain and have perfectly manicured sidewalks (lol) but idk that still means trashing your floors or carpets with grit and tracking nasty road dust inside and such, I don’t get why anyone would ever lol

          I take my shoes off even when people insist I don’t have to, unless its somehow so dirty that I really need them. it’s just wrong lol, They don’t know where my shoes have been

          I think maybe it comes from many people in the US driving everywhere. Your shoes only touch the parking lot/driveway, and only briefly, whats the big deal. If you’re only ever going from your own garage to another indoor parking garage even moreso.

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            My grandparents (both sides) live in sort of rural areas where their shoes definitely get dirty, so they’re a shoes off house.

            My parents live in the manicured environment you describe. Their shoes only touch clean pavement and floors, so they keep their shoes on in the house often.

            • YearOfTheCommieDesktop [they/them]@hexbear.net
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              Yeah I think it must be a factor. Though some people also just get their shit dirty all the time and don’t care if the flooring gets trashed.

              Frankly my mental health couldn’t withstand such an inane life in such a manicured environment, I don’t think. I live in a city, and my shoes definitely still get dirty lol, because I actually go places that don’t have parking garages, or (gasp) even walk/bike places, or go off the sidewalk onto some grass on occasion. Or snow

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      Exactly… it wasn’t until I lived on my own in more culturally diverse areas that I realized how gross it is and made my home a shoes off home.

      I’ve also moved towards changing my clothes before getting comfortable in my own house. I don’t want outside clothes on my couch. This is a little unrealistic if you host people, but I still operate like that for myself.

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      Fwiw it’s situationally dependent in my experience. I don’t wear outdoor shoes in my own home, and I don’t know anyone who does. Visiting family or close friends, I probably take my shoes off for most occasions. A social gathering at someone’s house I don’t know well, then shoes definitely on.

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    Shoes On is not the norm in the UK this map is so fucking wrong lmao.

    It’s Shoes Off literally everywhere in the country.

  • i grew up disgusting and repulsive, a flea-bitten, mud-eating barbarian without literacy or language, but my direct and amicable exposure to the peoples of western asia and the far east reformed me greatly.

    i now use a bidet and take my shoes off in the house.

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      I also don’t know any French people who consider shoes off to be rude. Guessing it’s regional. I think England and Northern France also have the type of climate where shoes off is just more practical

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    It’s definitely not rude to go shoes off in Brazil. While most people keep their shoes on, they’ll also default to taking it off when visiting someone they don’t know the habits of.

  • From my experience in Germany, the Netherlands and Belgium, this is a terrible map lol. I’ve never been in a house that asked me to take shoes off in those countries. I usually do because I find it nasty as shit to walk around with shoes and hate when people do at my house (I pretty much only let friends with high shoes/heels during events, because that’s something they are actively trying to do to their image). But the fact that those countries aren’t blue or green is very suspicious.

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    I don’t know who made the map, but at least where I’m from in Portugal, growing up I was always told to take my shoes off when entering the house and I rarely see other people not take them off when entering.

  • joaomarrom [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    do they consider flip flops or slippers shoes? that’s the only way in which a normal person might wear shoes at home in Brazil, and most people, as somebody else has mentioned here already, default to removing their shoes as soon as they go inside anyone’s home - it’s not even a class thing, everybody just does it

    the closest I get to that is during the coldest days in winter when I might wear a pair of crocs to warm my feet, but that’s already highly unusual and I feel incredibly weird doing it

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    i grew up in a apartment complex in a warm wet part of the US with carpets where nobody bothered to take their fucking shoes off. It was infuriating. I now have tile floors and I still can’t get people to listen to me and take their damn shoes off but at least I can mop it all up on Sundays.