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silence7@slrpnk.netM to Climate - truthful information about climate, related activism and politics.@slrpnk.netEnglish · 2 years ago

US joins in other nations in swearing off coal power to clean the climate

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US joins in other nations in swearing off coal power to clean the climate

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The United States is now committed to the idea of phasing out coal power plants, joining 56 other nations in kicking the coal habit. Saturday's announcement by U.S.
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    what about oil

    • 👁️👄👁️@lemm.ee
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      Woah there, we’ve got to liberate countries for some reason

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        The USA could “liberate” them for their supply of wind. Scotland had better watch out.

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      On a practical level, that will probably not happen for a long time. My understanding is that most high performance lubrication is petroleum-based, even if only in part. We’d have to find alternative sources for those lubricants before we could completely drop oil.

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        We have natural oils and we are good enough in organic chemistry to turn that into what we need. The amounts needed are so small that it basically does not matter.

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          I’m not being pedantic, but do you have examples of natural oils that we could use as viable replacements? I would seriously love to learn about them.

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            https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0019452222005118

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              Thank you!

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      https://beyondoilandgasalliance.org/who-we-are/

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    I’ll believe it when it actually happens. Until then it is platitudes as usual.

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    the laughing in appalachia was muted by coughing, yet the mining continued

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      Laughing? It sounded more like uncontrollable hacking and coughing … I saw a guy wheeze so hard he turned blue.

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    No date was given for when the existing plants would have to go…

    Unless legislation is passed, it’s bullshit.

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      The reality is that the US has shut down a large chunk of its coal-burning power plants as uneconomic already.

      This is largely an agreement to ‘do what is cheap’ which is the kind of thing which happens with relatively little government intervention (though some intervention can speed the process up)

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    This is just the international commitment: internally the US was committed to passing off by 2035.

    Which is fucking insane. We should be off coal by 2024.

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      That is less than 30 days away. I’m not sure how you expect that to happen? A realistic goal would be to have a global decline in coal usage by 2025.

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        We have like 400 days before the end of 2024.

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          By 2024 could mean by the start of 2024. Pedantics can be annoying, but clarity is important, as it makes things hard to misinterpret or manipulate.

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