• ggBarabajagal@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    We have a “voluntary” tax system in the U.S. – that’s always been the situation. “Voluntary” doesn’t mean that that you can choose to not volunteer to pay your taxes. It mostly just means that the way we run things, by default, it is each citizen’s responsibility to calculate and pay their taxes each April.

    American taxpayers filled out 1040 forms in the days before computers, a lot like they do now. The IRS selected certain fillings for audits, just like they do now – sometimes because of an apparent discrepancy, and sometimes just at random.

    It would be a lot more work, take a lot more resources, and be prone to a lot more error and lawsuits, if the IRS tried to calculate everyone’s taxes for them. Even now that we are in the days of computers, it is much more efficient for the IRS to only audit a fraction of the filings submitted each year.

    I’m also pretty sure our “voluntary” tax filling system has something to do with the Fourth Amendment and other privacy concerns. A lot of Americans very strongly believe that it is not the government’s place to be all up in their private business.

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      8 months ago

      Yet many other countries do in fact calculate taxes for their citizens. You just need to check it and sign.

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          8 months ago

          more like a population issue and too much diversity to agree on anything to make a law

          and i mean diverse opinions and backgrounds not skin color or whatever.

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        8 months ago

        Yeah, they send me mine calculated, and ask if I want to change anything. I look over it and and, as if I understand it all, say " That’ll do pig"

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      8 months ago

      if the IRS tried to calculate everyone’s taxes for them

      The IRS does calculate everyone’s taxes without an audit. If you mistype a bank statement you will get a bill or a check from the IRS (depending on whether the error was paying too much or too little).

      An audit is completely different than the typical, "you typed $1000 in bank interest but you only really received $100 so here’s a check for the difference in taxes. This has happened to me many times over the years. It’s why I no longer get stressed over taxes because I know the IRS will just send me a bill or a check in 6 months to fix any mistakes.