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    A second person, who was identified as Baena’s romantic partner, was also found dead in the home where they both resided, according to authorities in Aguascalientes, the state nearly 500 kilometers (300 miles) northwest of the capital city.

    Mexico’s Security Minister Rosa Icela Rodríguez said the cause of death is so far unknown, while Aguascalientes’ Attorney General Jesús Figueroa said there is no evidence of foul play for the moment.

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      Another article specified that they were literally found stabbed to death. How the fuck is there not foul play involved? Sounds like the AG is in on it or at least permissive of anti-LGBTQ+ violence.

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        Would that really suprise you coming from Mexico? Like good on the people to elect them, and respect for being them for open about who they are, but the country has some serious issues and this isn’t near the top of the list unfortunately.

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          You say that like they didnt legalize gay marriage, elect LGBTQ allies, strengthen and protect abortion laws in response to the roe vs wade overturner, and legalize pot. And that’s just to name a few.

          Oh and you don’t lose your house if you have to go to the hospital without insurance.

          Say what you will about Mexico, but in some aspects it’s more advanced than United States. At least when it comes to the red states.

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            I didn’t say anything like that in my statement. I also didn’t imply anything like that in my statement.

            Don’t put words into people’s mouths.

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              Honey, you don’t need to outright say something for the implications and subtext to be there.

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                And sometimes there isn’t subtext. Or you just absolutely miss the fucking point.

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                  Would that really suprise you coming from Mexico? Like good on the people to elect them, and respect for being them for open about who they are, but the country has some serious issues and this isn’t near the top of the list unfortunately.

                  What exactly did you mean by this? Because it sure reads like you’re saying “Mexico is unfriendly towards LGBTQ+”, because you think this shouldn’t be surprising “coming from Mexico”.

                  There is evidence for a counterpoint to this implied statement: that Mexico is not unfriendly to LGBTQ+, but your response to that evidence was “I didn’t say they didn’t (enact legal protections, etc etc), don’t put words in my mouth”, so what exactly did you mean by what I quoted from you?

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              lol there is no way Narcos want legalized drugs. Not that weed makes up any significant percentage of their business.

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                Why wouldn’t they want to sell a secondary product without any government meddling (not that the government has that much power lol)

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                  Legalization would bring in more government meddling, not less. Exactly as you said, the government doesn’t have that much power. Cartels currently have full control of production, distribution and profits. They do not want regulations, taxes and dealing with competition in uhh… less confrontational ways. That’s even if they’d be allowed into the market, which is unlikely.

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          While it isn’t surprising in Mexico, it is also not surprising from any other country either. Not sure what’s the point of singling it out.

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            Yeah honestly if something like this happened in one of the redder states in the US I would not be remotely surprised.

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              Living in a red state, I would? It’s not every year that an elected official gets whacked, even one that’s a member of a hated minority. For reference, there’s been 57 assassinated government officials in the US total: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assassinated_American_politicians

              Saying “Eh this is just par for the course all countries are like this” feels like it minimalizes the problem.

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                “Not every decade” is maybe a poor choice of words given your supplied evidence. Though technically it does look like 2 decades were skipped… but a handful of decades had more than 5 to make up for those skipped decades.

                “Not every year” would at least be a much more defensible statement given your provided context.

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              What? This would be pretty damn surprising, please don’t fight ignorance with more ignorance, it’s not a good look

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              I would be surprised they would elect a LGBTQ+ friendly politician in the first place

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                In general, or just in red states? Cross-referencing LGBT politicians with their states’ historical political leanings, an openly LGBT politician has been elected or reelected while their state was considered republican a total of 96 times. The lead is actually a three-way split between Florida, Georgia, and Arizona, each with a total of 9.

                So. Less than it perhaps should. Way more than you’d think.

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              I would be surprised they were stabbed rather than shot. US conservatives are too cowardly for a knife fight.

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          Pretty sure asassination of politicians is up there with the rrst of serious stuff that thr country has problems with, what kind of take is yours?

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    No foul play folks. We all know they were an AVID fan of juggling knives while running up and down the stairs…

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    I wonder why this is.

    Perhaps it’s because they’re NB. Perhaps it’s because they support policies that might upset the status quo (cartels making as much money as possible and killing anyone who opposes them without repercussion.)

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    Imagine being so insecure in your own sexuality, so afraid that one day you might trip and fall on a dick and like it, that you have to murder someone.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Mexico’s first openly non-binary magistrate and prominent LGBTQ activist Jesús Ociel Baena Saucedo was found dead at home in the central state of Aguascalientes on Monday.

    A second person, who was identified as Baena’s romantic partner, was also found dead in the home where they both resided, according to authorities in Aguascalientes, the state nearly 500 kilometers (300 miles) northwest of the capital city.

    Mexico’s Security Minister Rosa Icela Rodríguez said the cause of death is so far unknown, while Aguascalientes’ Attorney General Jesús Figueroa said there is no evidence of foul play for the moment.

    Figueroa said the case would be investigated from a gender perspective because Baena identified as a non-binary person, though there was no mention of the deaths being potentially linked to a hate crime.

    While Latin America has made impressive progress on marriage equality over the decades, LGBTQ+ activists and gender minorities continue to suffer high levels of violence and discrimination from social and religious conservatives.

    Mexico’s Guadalajara city also co-hosted the Gay Games this month, alongside Hong Kong, marking a first for both continents to host the gender inclusive sporting event amidst opposition from conservative politicians.


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    Horrible… There is some S-tier evil in the world. That we must take additional risks if we ever want to make a difference is such bullshit. It will take an investigation to tell if it was political, personal or a gender hate crime but that the assumption that hate crime alone is sufficient reminds us how far we need to go before we are not at war.