Also for security cameras, connect them to something like a Synology NAS so you have the recordings locally and then configure a firewall to block the cameras from any internet access.
Viewing the cams remotely just means using a VPN to connect to your network and then connecting to the NAS.
It’s possible to maintain privacy/control and still use modern tech.
One thing I would say is that the camera stream will hammer those disks. They will always be busy. I chose not to run this way and instead loaded up a W10 VM with Blue Iris. I have the vm on a dedicated VM server with raid1 SSDs.
My Synology has large disks and does other duties. That’s the main reason I didn’t want that extra I/O.
I use Enterprise drives in mine set up with Synology Hybrid Raid and a full copy of the NAS on another “NAS” (it’s actually a USB attached storage from QNAP).
Also, set the video streams to h264 or h265 and the bandwidth is lower.
That’s ridiculous. The disks were far more than the cameras. And why be wasteful of those costs I’ve already shouldered? I am as miserly as I can be when spending on my infrastructure.
Why do you think I cannot afford more disks? Or a house? You incorrectly assume too much and seem unnecessarily argumentative.
I have already bought the disks and see no reason to work them overly hard for camera surveillance. I worked out another solution that others might be interested in. That’s what this thread is about.
I really don’t see why you would need to own security cameras if you don’t own a house? If you’re renting that’s not your job, and if you live in an apartment… Well, why do you need security cameras in your apartment? Unless you own the building?
My point was mostly that like, a couple of disks is not a big expense, and not something I feel is worth fussing over, personally.
Well I did not refer to record inside your home. Usually security cams are outside facing your front lawn, if anything. Also with you having access to the recordings, not the landlord controlling it.
I am positive plenty of renters run surveillance cameras for a myriad of valid reasons. Maybe they don’t trust their landlord or they are nonresponsive, or simply don’t want their belongings stolen or messed with, or have troublesome neighbors or roommates, etc. The world is big and varied with many solid reasons. Open up your scope a bit.
I didn’t realize living in a rented house/apartment puts up a magic barrier that keeps out all security concerns that owners have to worry about.
Also, for security video storage, you don’t (or at least shouldn’t) just slap in some generic drives and go. There are specialized drives made for the always on, always active setup you need for that, and they are much more expensive than standard drives. I just upgraded my NAS with 4 8TB drives, and those cost me just under $1k.
Perhaps he can afford things because he knows how to apply his knowledge to be more frugal with things like this. If you can work around disk lifespan limitations, you’d be wasteful not to do so.
What tics me off is a lot of the big box store brands of cameras don’t allow you to save locally - they don’t bother putting in the feature because then they couldn’t sell you a cloud storage subscription, or they just have the audacity to lock it behind a paywall so you have to pay a subscription to use your own damn hardware.
Also for security cameras, connect them to something like a Synology NAS so you have the recordings locally and then configure a firewall to block the cameras from any internet access.
Viewing the cams remotely just means using a VPN to connect to your network and then connecting to the NAS.
It’s possible to maintain privacy/control and still use modern tech.
One thing I would say is that the camera stream will hammer those disks. They will always be busy. I chose not to run this way and instead loaded up a W10 VM with Blue Iris. I have the vm on a dedicated VM server with raid1 SSDs.
My Synology has large disks and does other duties. That’s the main reason I didn’t want that extra I/O.
What kind of SSDs? I hope you bought enterprise or you are going to get a nasty surprise in about a year…
Eh, even if your prediction came true, it is not so nasty if it happens. I have others and rebuilding is an inconvenience. I also have backups.
I went for the Crucial mx500 ones. They seemed to have the more positive reviews when I last checked. We will see.
I use Enterprise drives in mine set up with Synology Hybrid Raid and a full copy of the NAS on another “NAS” (it’s actually a USB attached storage from QNAP).
Also, set the video streams to h264 or h265 and the bandwidth is lower.
It’s been fine so far.
I’d you’re rich enough to own your own security cameras I think you can afford some hard drives.
That’s ridiculous. The disks were far more than the cameras. And why be wasteful of those costs I’ve already shouldered? I am as miserly as I can be when spending on my infrastructure.
If you can’t afford the disks I’m wondering how you can afford a house
But I mean, that’s the price of security cameras. You just gotta accept you will need to cycle disks every once in a while, and delete old data.
Why do you think I cannot afford more disks? Or a house? You incorrectly assume too much and seem unnecessarily argumentative.
I have already bought the disks and see no reason to work them overly hard for camera surveillance. I worked out another solution that others might be interested in. That’s what this thread is about.
Maybe I should have clarified a bit then, but
I really don’t see why you would need to own security cameras if you don’t own a house? If you’re renting that’s not your job, and if you live in an apartment… Well, why do you need security cameras in your apartment? Unless you own the building?
My point was mostly that like, a couple of disks is not a big expense, and not something I feel is worth fussing over, personally.
“If you’re renting that’s not your job”
Yes, I’d love my landlord to have 24/7 recordings of all my activities, that’s not fucking creepy at all
I swear some of you don’t really think much outside of figuring out what’s convenient for you
Well I did not refer to record inside your home. Usually security cams are outside facing your front lawn, if anything. Also with you having access to the recordings, not the landlord controlling it.
I am positive plenty of renters run surveillance cameras for a myriad of valid reasons. Maybe they don’t trust their landlord or they are nonresponsive, or simply don’t want their belongings stolen or messed with, or have troublesome neighbors or roommates, etc. The world is big and varied with many solid reasons. Open up your scope a bit.
My neighbor got one because their delivery packages kept getting stolen.
Well, I guess that’s true. You’re right, I probably should have thought a bit more about it, sorry
I didn’t realize living in a rented house/apartment puts up a magic barrier that keeps out all security concerns that owners have to worry about.
Also, for security video storage, you don’t (or at least shouldn’t) just slap in some generic drives and go. There are specialized drives made for the always on, always active setup you need for that, and they are much more expensive than standard drives. I just upgraded my NAS with 4 8TB drives, and those cost me just under $1k.
Perhaps he can afford things because he knows how to apply his knowledge to be more frugal with things like this. If you can work around disk lifespan limitations, you’d be wasteful not to do so.
What tics me off is a lot of the big box store brands of cameras don’t allow you to save locally - they don’t bother putting in the feature because then they couldn’t sell you a cloud storage subscription, or they just have the audacity to lock it behind a paywall so you have to pay a subscription to use your own damn hardware.